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Long Range Leap - Deal-E-O - 29-Nov-2019 As stated in the title, I think I'm ready to make the leap to a 7" build. I'm compiling a list of what I need, from the actual quad parts to upgrades to my gear. I'm wanting to go Crossfire. I have an X9D, non-2019 edition, with an aftermarket 3S battery. So do I need to lose the battery and go back to the stock one if I'm to use the module? Does the Crossfire module require an external power supply? I use HDO's with RapidFire currently. Go, no-go? Long range antennas? Here is my list currently. Long range experts, feel free to completely change this. I could be SO far off, and I have thick skin, so feel free to tell me so, hehe. TBS Crossfire R/C Link https://www.getfpv.com/tbs-crossfire-tx-long-range-r-c-link.html TBS Unify Pro32 HV https://www.getfpv.com/tbs-unify-pro32-5-8ghz-video-transmitter.html TBS Diversity Nano RX https://www.getfpv.com/tbs-crossfire-diversity-nano-rx.html Holybro Micro M8N GPS https://www.getfpv.com/holybro-micro-m8n-gps-module.html TBS Diamond Antenna https://www.getfpv.com/tbs-diamond-antenna.html TBS Crossfire Immortal T Antenna V2 https://www.getfpv.com/tbs-crossfire-immortal-t-antenna-v2.html Holybro Kakute F7 AIO V1.5 https://www.getfpv.com/holybro-kakute-f7-aio-flight-controller.html Spedix IS45 45A ESC Overkill? 4n1 instead? https://www.getfpv.com/spedix-is45-2-6s-lipo-dshot-blheli-s-45a-esc.html I was thinking either a Super G+, or an ImpulseRc Reverb. Both in 7" as stated above. I like the look of the Super G+. No idea on motors or battery. I'm wanting a nice cruiser, but I want the ability for a little "umph" if required or necessary. So there we go. Nothing is really set in stone, except wanting to run Crossfire. I've caught the build bug bad.... Deal RE: Long Range Leap - Krohsis - 29-Nov-2019 As stated in the title, I think I'm ready to make the leap to a 7" build. I'm compiling a list of what I need, from the actual quad parts to upgrades to my gear. I'm wanting to go Crossfire. I have an X9D, non-2019 edition, with an aftermarket 3S battery. So do I need to lose the battery and go back to the stock one if I'm to use the module? Does the Crossfire module require an external power supply? With a recent update you no longer need an external battery for 1W and 2W. I still use one as you will eat up the X9D battery pretty fast at those wattages. Below 1W you never needed an external battery. I still run an external battery and I can fly all day without a recharge. I just mount it to the radio kickstand and all is good. I use HDO's with RapidFire currently. Go, no-go? Long range antennas? No personal experience with RapidFire, but many use it, so I'm sure you will be fine. Yes, long range antennas...... Here is my list currently. Long range experts, feel free to completely change this. I could be SO far off, and I have thick skin, so feel free to tell me so, hehe. TBS Crossfire R/C Link https://www.getfpv.com/tbs-crossfire-tx-...-link.html Maybe get the TX lite. No bluetooth, but you may not need it and it will save you about $60.00 https://www.getfpv.com/tbs-crossfire-tx-lite.html TBS Unify Pro32 HV https://www.getfpv.com/tbs-unify-pro32-5...itter.html TBS Diversity Nano RX https://www.getfpv.com/tbs-crossfire-div...no-rx.html Holybro Micro M8N GPS https://www.getfpv.com/holybro-micro-m8n...odule.html Holybro is a good GPS, but this one will get the job done and for a lot less. I have it on all 4 of my LR rigs. https://www.readytoflyquads.com/micro-ublox-m8n-gps-w-18x18x TBS Diamond Antenna https://www.getfpv.com/tbs-diamond-antenna.html I have the Diamond antenna, it is a very good antenna. But I have learned that it is tuned for both 868mhz and 915mhz, which means it works for both, but not as good as it could be for us in the US. The TrueMox from TrueRC is tuned to 915mhz. It has a little less behind you capability, but it will allow you to go several hundred yards behind you so it shouldn't be a problem I have my TrueMox on order. A bonus is it's cheaper. Remember vertically polarized. https://www.getfpv.com/truerc-true-mox-915-antenna.html TBS Crossfire Immortal T Antenna V2 https://www.getfpv.com/tbs-crossfire-imm...na-v2.html I can't say much nice about the IT. It's the standard most use, but they come tuned whacky, and I have never had good results with them. I start to see my LQ degrade at about 2 miles, and by 5 miles I start to worry about failsafes. But, unless you make your own there aren't many other choices. Remember you want one vertically polarized. Since you have the diversity receiver on your list you can run a second antenna horizontally polarized if you want, or you can run a second vertically polarized. Most run a second horizontal. Holybro Kakute F7 AIO V1.5 https://www.getfpv.com/holybro-kakute-f7...oller.html Spedix IS45 45A ESC Overkill? 4n1 instead? https://www.getfpv.com/spedix-is45-2-6s-...a-esc.html Personal choice on individual or 4n1. There are some good 4n1 that have a rep for not burning up on you. Spedix is a great esc, and for a 7 inch 45a is NOT overkill. If you want to mash the throttle now and again, I would consider something a bit larger in the amp range. If you are going to mostly just cruise then 45amps will be fine. If you go 4n1 the t-motor 55A Pro II has a good rep and I'm happy with mine so far but only have a dozen or so flights on it. I was thinking either a Super G+, or an ImpulseRc Reverb. Both in 7" as stated above. I like the look of the Super G+. No idea on motors or battery. I'm wanting a nice cruiser, but I want the ability for a little "umph" if required or necessary. The Super G+ is a very nice frame and does a good job keeping the blades out of the HD cam view. Have you considered the FR7 or the FR7-G? The FR7 is designed to run a GoPro Hero 7/8 low and the FPV cam above. If you like a traditional setup, with a cam on the deck above the FPV cam then the FR7-G would be your choice. The FR series from FR3-FR10 are all dead cat frames as well. All open source. If interested we can talk more later. So there we go. Nothing is really set in stone, except wanting to run Crossfire. I've caught the build bug bad.... What are your thoughts on motors? Also, 7 inch is limiting on blade choices...and then on top of that, there are blades in that size that are failing in flight. So if you go 7 inch we should talk about blades. Is it too late to convince you to go bigger? I thought 7 inch was the perfect size for LR. But I can tell you I no longer think that and I love my 10inch. I love it so much, I just bought several FR10-G frames. Deal RE: Long Range Leap - voodoo614 - 29-Nov-2019 To answer your Crossfire questions, external power is needed depending on what module you are planning to get and what power RF are you planning to use. If you get the Crossfire micro, you don't need external power. But, the micro is limited to 250mW. And you probably want either the Lite or the Full module for long range. Both the Lite and Full modules will go up to 2W. But 1W and 2W will require an external power source. Edit : Krohsis beat me and have more updated answer. I actually didn't know that 1W and 2W no longer needs external power. RE: Long Range Leap - Krohsis - 29-Nov-2019 (29-Nov-2019, 05:52 PM)voodoo614 Wrote: To answer your Crossfire questions, external power is needed depending on what module you are planning to get and what power RF are you planning to use. If you get the Crossfire micro, you don't need external power. But, the micro is limited to 250mW. And you probably want either the Lite or the Full module for long range. Both the Lite and Full modules will go up to 2W. But 1W and 2W will require an external power source. Not anymore VooDoo. A firmware update a year or so ago 2.4 I believe changed that. But with that said, you won't be happy with the draw on the Radio battery at the higher wattages. RE: Long Range Leap - voodoo614 - 29-Nov-2019 If you are for sure going with Crossfire, Heli-Nation has 20% of for Black Friday. Use "BLACKFRIDAY" code. I got the LITE myself. (29-Nov-2019, 05:56 PM)Krohsis Wrote: Not anymore VooDoo. A firmware update a year or so ago changed that. But with that said, you won't be happy with the draw on the Radio battery at the higher wattages. We cross post, so I edited my post. Thanks for the update. RE: Long Range Leap - Deal-E-O - 29-Nov-2019 Some food for thought. It's not too late to convince me of anything. I was thinking of 10" first, but for some reason 7" seemed a like a compromise. But, you have reignited the 10" idea. See how easy that was, hehe. Now it's going to be a 10" build. I'll have to check the frames out. Changing to the Crossfire TX Lite. Swapped the Diamond for the TrueMox as well. Going with a 10", how many amps would my ESC's need to be? And I have no idea on motors to spin a prop this size. Thanks for the input, and please keep it coming. Deal RE: Long Range Leap - Deal-E-O - 29-Nov-2019 Where can I find the FR10-G frame for sale? I can't locate one.... Deal RE: Long Range Leap - Krohsis - 29-Nov-2019 (29-Nov-2019, 06:17 PM)Deal-E-O Wrote: Some food for thought. It's not too late to convince me of anything. I was thinking of 10" first, but for some reason 7" seemed a like a compromise. But, you have reignited the 10" idea. See how easy that was, hehe. Now it's going to be a 10" build. I'll have to check the frames out. RE: Long Range Leap - Deal-E-O - 29-Nov-2019 How about some Lumenier AXII 2 Long range 5.8 antennas for the quad and my goggles? I already have a TrueRc 5.8 X-Air patch. Will that suffice, or is there a different patch I should use? Am I incorrect with the 5.8 line of thinking? I sent an email inquiring about getting an FR10-G from www.cncmadness.com as well. As far as the cost, I'm fine with spending what is required to get what I want. I'll dig into the motor and ESC selections here shortly. Negative on the Facebook. This is one of the few online interactions I have, hehe. Deal p.s. This is going to be awesome. And my wife thinks the 5" quads hanging on the wall are big.... RE: Long Range Leap - Deal-E-O - 29-Nov-2019 MN3110-15 780kV on sale now for under $40. So are you saying I should $hit or get off the pot on these? I'm ready to buy if you say so.... Deal RE: Long Range Leap - Krohsis - 30-Nov-2019 (29-Nov-2019, 09:39 PM)Deal-E-O Wrote: MN3110-15 780kV on sale now for under $40. So are you saying I should $hit or get off the pot on these? I'm ready to buy if you say so.... Sorry Deal for not responding sooner, we were at a NHL game. If they are 6s thats a good deal. Not sure if 3110-15 are 6s...3110-17 are 6s but -26 are not, etc. RE: Long Range Leap - Krohsis - 30-Nov-2019 (29-Nov-2019, 09:17 PM)Deal-E-O Wrote: How about some Lumenier AXII 2 Long range 5.8 antennas for the quad and my goggles? I already have a TrueRc 5.8 X-Air patch. Will that suffice, or is there a different patch I should use? Am I incorrect with the 5.8 line of thinking? RE: Long Range Leap - Deal-E-O - 30-Nov-2019 No issue on the delay in responding. Life is more important than this, hehe. Plus, I like hockey too. As far as the antennas, does the actual length of the antenna matter, especially on the quad, or just the long range designation? I looked deeper, those motors are indeed only 4S. How about the BH Tornado T5 Pro 3115 in either 900kv or 1050kv to start out with? They are 5S-6S motors and are $37 each. I want a cruiser, but the ability to flip and roll and punch out if necessary. This isn't going to be exactly a speed build, but to me gathering all the parts is part of the fun. My wife isn't into flying, but she likes to watch and go to the places I fly. I'm very lucky as my wife completely supports my hobbies. I've got my brother hooked, and his girlfriend is moving in that direction as well. Odds are my brother will follow me down the path, hehe. Deal p.s. I once stated here that X-class wasn't for me. Damn, pretty sure this qualifies as X-class, hehe. RE: Long Range Leap - Krohsis - 30-Nov-2019 (30-Nov-2019, 03:00 PM)Deal-E-O Wrote: No issue on the delay in responding. Life is more important than this, hehe. Plus, I like hockey too. RE: Long Range Leap - Deal-E-O - 30-Nov-2019 I got some Lumenier AXII 2 LR antennas in the cart. That long thing will stay rigid and upright during flight? I'm seeing a 10" prop chopping it up, hehe. But, I have no idea. I'm thinking on getting the 900kv. I checked out ECALC. Let's just say I don't have near the knowledge or information to attempt that yet, hehe. Again, all your help is super appreciated. Deal |