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Words of Encouragement. Sort of
#1
Big Grin 
Hi Everyone.

I read pretty much every post made in the forum and one thing I see popping up a bit are people being a bit harsh on themselves, when it comes to their flying abilities.

I would like to assure you that you are not alone and the one thing I know for sure is that every single one of us has been there, done that.

We were all crap in the beginning.

2 left Thumbs, wandering around the radio like they are possessed. Every movement you make you suddenly panic and jam the sticks in the opposite direction and then all hell breaks loose and you find yourself running for the nearest bomb shelter.

What follows is carnage, usually to the multirotor, but quite often to some poor unsuspecting minding it's own business plant.

We immediately look around to see if anyone witnessed that pathetic attempt at flying, and if you do see someone your mind races and you try some Jedi Mind trick on them saying "It never happened, you saw nothing, move along"

If no one saw you and the NTSB crash site then all is well.....It never happened.

Then comes the hard part, convincing your partner that you need just a couple more new props, you get the ok (and even if you didn't ) you order a "couple" of spare props, a few days later your "couple" of 300 props arrive, of which you quickly hide them around the garage, back garden etc.

Then you get out there and try again, and I know what you are thinking..You scan your surrounds and make a mental note of everything around you which is a potential hazard and lock them into your brain for things to avoid, You fire up the quad and promptly crash and bash into pretty much everything you know you have to avoid.

Then comes the "Hey I just learn"t a whole heap of new swear words"

Back to the tools and more repairs all the while muttering Bloody hell *&* stupid piece of S*%t, why won't you fly damn you.

Ok, I have 2 flight sessions under my belt..Damn, I am ready to take it on.  Fire up and the quad starts going into a Macarena type dance as it thrashes around the garden/park and you are like WTF?. You check the motors are all spinning correctly and start thinking stuff like "omg I have killed my FC or my esc's are dead, or or or, but only to find in your haste to get flying again you put the props on the wrong motors.. DOH!

At times you think  "stuff this" and put the quad away for a while vowing never to touch it again, but that usually lasts about 3 or 4 minutes as you get all pumped again as you went looking for youtube videos of how to fly a quadcopter and got sidetracked on some video of a pilot flying low and fast through and around trees and doing flips and stuff, and suddenly you are BACK. Big Grin .


The thing is, we all crash a lot. We crash harder and faster when we gain experience.(Thanks Konrad for that clarification), it is part of the whole experience, sure, we would prefer not too, but as they say "Shit Happens".

Some of you will give it up, most will push through and one day it just falls into place.

Most of entered this hobby because we have a passion for flight and it is that passion that drives us to better ourselves.

Sometimes we can get despondent because we watch all the awesome videos out there and wonder if you will ever get to that stage.
Reality is, some of us will, and some of us never will, but that does not matter, what matters is how you feel when you fly.

Stick at it and you will see progress, some days more than others, just do not give in.

I can fly much better now than when I started but am far from being even close to what some may call a great pilot, I consider myself mediocre at best, but the thing is I am having a ball when I fly, and honestly, while it is nice getting good feedback it is my own desire to better myself that keeps me motivated.

So, chin up and get out there, bust some props, practice practice practice, but mostly have fun doing it.  Let me tell you, when you pull off your first full flight without a crash you cannot help yourself, you look around and this time you are hoping that as many people as possible just saw your amazing feat, and inside you are saying "Did you see that?  .  Try getting that grin off your face. Big Grin
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#2
Great post Biggles! But You've got one thing fundamentally wrong.

Quote:The thing is, we all crash a lot when starting off

should be

Quote:The thing is, we all crash a lot. We crash harder and faster when we gain experience.

Wink
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#3
(06-23-2016, 08:25 AM)Konrad Stepanajtys Wrote: Great post Biggles! But You've got one thing fundamentally wrong.


should be


Wink

So true...how remiss of me. Cool

Have added your words of wisdom.
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#4
Well said! few months ago, someone who was frustrated at improving his skills, asked how to get better quicker, and most of the answers were simply "Keep going and keep practising"... https://oscarliang.com/learn-fpv-flying-faster/

it's not a competition, what matters most is that you enjoy what you do Smile
Don't be a LOS'er, be a FPV'er :) -- My Fleet
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#5
Thanks Biggles.  You are of course correct. Rolleyes
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#6
Hope you guys don't mind if I chime in but what is crazy for me is that, I mainly enjoy building quads. I have built numerous quads for friends and I have gained alot of knowledge in doing so but I am a total wreck when it comes to flying fpv. Lack of practice I'm sure. Seeing this post assures me that everyone starts somewhere...
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#7
It's kinda like growing up. And when you get there you wish you could go back to when it was all new. Thanks for all the good words Biggles
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#8
so true. take baby steps. I just started flying with Trollhammered on the weekends, it helps to have someone that can give you pointers, and bounce ideas of each other. and when you watch all those amazing videos on YouTube, we're so at aw at what we're watching that we tend to forget that they've left out all the amazing crashes that they must have also.
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#9
Great thread!
Ive been flying for a year or so now and have said these same things to my buddies when they say "man I all I do is crash!"

To add to what Biggles and others have said. I shortened my personal learning curve simply by having multiple battery's for successive flights. Instead of 1 short flight followed my 45 minutes of pondering the next one. With a good 3-4 batteries ready to go, now you can take what you've just learned on one flight and apply it straightaway into the next flight. Mix that with some simple exercises and a way to charge where you're flying and things will fall in place shortly.

Id take my kiddos and my first x5c to the soccer fields with a 4x charger, battery bank, and 4 batteries for a full day of fun and I really gained control quickly that way.

Hope this helps speed up the learning curve for someone else, like it did for me.
Fly, crash, learn, repeat!
Fly. Crash. Learn. Repeat!
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(06-23-2016, 07:46 PM)outlawzz Wrote: Hope you guys don't mind if I chime in but what is crazy for me is that,  I mainly enjoy building quads. I have built numerous quads for friends  and I have gained alot of knowledge in doing so but I am a total wreck when it comes to flying fpv. Lack of practice I'm sure. Seeing this post assures me that everyone starts somewhere...

I'm the same, I really enjoy the build and have learned a lot about how different components work together (or don't, as shown by the thousands of dollars in parts I bought because I thought they were the "latest and greatest" but have no use for haha) BUT I've got a few well built crafts now and springs coming, time to learn how to fly!  Don't get me wrong, I can get around pretty naturally in LOS but I've been procrastinating on learning FPV.  This thread's confirmed what I've been thinking, that it's not going to take years to be a decent pilot. So thanks!
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(06-23-2016, 08:29 AM)BigglesFPV Wrote: Then comes the hard part, convincing your partner that you need just a couple more new props, you get the ok (and even if you didn't ) you order a "couple" of spare props, a few days later your "couple" of 300 props arrive, of which you quickly hide them around the garage, back garden etc.

This thread is awesome, but this cracked me up properly! Been there...
"Oh c'mon babe, how much more of a waste will it be if I don't get props and never use it again?!"
"More props? I don't understand how you break so many(!) but okaay, I guess"
"Well, I also need another 4 sets of motors,
"Four..? Sets!?"
"Well I gotta replace the one set, so no point not getting more spares, and gotta try the bigger motors too and spares of those, so I'm also gonna need props for those."
"Hang on, how many more props!?"
"Well the other ones wont fit the new motors! Oh look if I add that new AIO camera expedited shipping cost stays the same! Oh yeah no point getting a new camera without a DVR to show off my crashing skills, and that needs an SD card!"

This argument has been going on since before Christmas,
My present from Mrs Thriftyass this year... Expedited shipping and an argument over props! Heart
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#12
BIG post bigglesFPV well done!

without crashing reparing buying and all the other stuff this hobby would be not the same!
In my first year i crashed so often that my youtube name was the result of this epic first year Smile
Sometimes when I watch my old video footage I can't believe that I get now 2-3 min of flying without crashing Wink

But I have to say this day it is easier for starters props like DAL and so doesn't break that easy (i think back on the gemfan glass fiber or ABS plastic probs... they did break while you watched them hehe)

Quads must fly and crash so keep going guys!!
Fly deep, fast and chrash - repair and then repeat! Welcome to the Game of Drones ;)
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