Posts: 321 Threads: 51 Likes Received: 123 in 88 posts Likes Given: 164 Joined: Nov 2017 Reputation: 6 I am considering adding another quad to my growing fleet. Should I get a 210ish quad like a alien/martian, or should I get a tiny whoop. I haven't made a whoop yet, and I was wondering if its thrust and ability to recover from manuvers was comparable to a 3 or 4s quad. Any thoughts Thanks! • Posts: 1,070 Threads: 70 Likes Received: 742 in 378 posts Likes Given: 577 Joined: Jan 2016 Reputation: 44 Not at all comparable. That is completely different kind of fun Posts: 67 Threads: 2 Likes Received: 30 in 26 posts Likes Given: 22 Joined: Nov 2017 Reputation: 0 Jesse Perkins is Tiny Whoop. In this video they talk about the differences in how they fly against a larger craft. Posts: 3,288 Threads: 129 Likes Received: 2,740 in 1,644 posts Likes Given: 2,969 Joined: Apr 2017 Reputation: 65 A decent 210ish for $200 and a whoop for $50...get both? SoCal Kaity :D OMG, no one told me it would be this much fun! Addicted :) • Posts: 12,099 Threads: 125 Likes Received: 3,738 in 2,835 posts Likes Given: 99 Joined: Feb 2017 Reputation: 388 A good comparison would be a go cart to a formula 1 car. Both fun, but totally different class. Posts: 321 Threads: 51 Likes Received: 123 in 88 posts Likes Given: 164 Joined: Nov 2017 Reputation: 6 20-Jan-2018, 06:59 AM (This post was last modified: 20-Jan-2018, 07:02 AM by raspberrypi33.) Thanks for all the quick replies! I think I might get the whoop, so that I can fly it around my high school. Trying to fly a 210 in a classroom is like trying to drive a car through a house (not that I've ever tried it myself) Plus, a whoop has simpler components, with less parts, so repairs would be cheaper, and less things could go wrong. Also, a whoop is much more portable, it has less mass so it is less likely to break, and can be flown practically anywhere. On the other hand, a 210ish size racing quad would be great if I had more time to fly and Washington's weather was more cooperative But this is just based on my limited research and even more limited experience in quads. "Less stuff" = less problems. Less problems = less money spent on repairs. Less $ spent = more $ to get "less stuff". And the process repeats Posts: 3,288 Threads: 129 Likes Received: 2,740 in 1,644 posts Likes Given: 2,969 Joined: Apr 2017 Reputation: 65 I am in love with my whoops and fly them all the time in my home. They are ok outside too as long as there is no wind. I started with a prebuilt (Eachine E010S) and then got an X-Racer X1. I have since built a few of them and they are really fun to fly! They are a world apart from KT-125 or KT-210 though. SoCal Kaity :D OMG, no one told me it would be this much fun! Addicted :) • Posts: 321 Threads: 51 Likes Received: 123 in 88 posts Likes Given: 164 Joined: Nov 2017 Reputation: 6 Thanks! I tried mounting an FPV cam + Vtx on my E010, but it couldn't take the weight. I had like 10 seconds of it hovering, and then it just flopped to the ground! Took it off, and flew fine. I didn't know ~3 grams could make such a big difference! Did it work fine for you? I might just have old motors or something like that. Is the E010 better or the Inductrix better? (Better as in flight time, punch outs, quality, etc) • Posts: 3,288 Threads: 129 Likes Received: 2,740 in 1,644 posts Likes Given: 2,969 Joined: Apr 2017 Reputation: 65 The E010S I have will fly for about 2.5 minutes on my RDQ 210mah cells. The camera is a EF02 and it works great! The "S" version comes with the camera installed and costs about $50. I bought the FrSky version, but they have a FlySky and DSM version as well. Mine is updated to BF 3.2 and it flies great! I also changed the pigtail so I could use standard Inductrix style batteries. Also have "hot" motors from Lumeneir installed. SoCal Kaity :D OMG, no one told me it would be this much fun! Addicted :) Posts: 1,504 Threads: 83 Likes Received: 944 in 654 posts Likes Given: 2,142 Joined: Sep 2016 Reputation: 24 (20-Jan-2018, 07:24 AM)raspberrypi33 Wrote: Thanks! I tried mounting an FPV cam + Vtx on my E010, but it couldn't take the weight. I had like 10 seconds of it hovering, and then it just flopped to the ground! Took it off, and flew fine. I didn't know ~3 grams could make such a big difference! Did it work fine for you? I might just have old motors or something like that. Is the E010 better or the Inductrix better? (Better as in flight time, punch outs, quality, etc) On paper I think the E010S is probably the best bang-for-buck 'true' (65mm ducted chassis, 0615 brushed motor) whoop available, the Tiny7 and cheerson CX95S are slightly bigger and use 0720 size motors with 40mm (as opposed to 31mm) props. The cheerson stats claim speeds of 65kph, and the Tiny7 I have is no slouch either, the cheerson frame doesn't have the resilience of the Tiny7 though. Standard ~65mm whoops are prone to getting 'swamped' by large areas, they just don't have the speed to maintain excitement outside. These 75mm options are much more fun to fly outdoors, being faster and less effected by wind, I think the weight might have as much to do with this as the aerodynamic canopy. Surprisingly I find the additional speed is actually more of a hindrance, than the extra 10mm in chassis size, when flying proximity indoors, but I reckon the main reason for this is that I'm not a good pilot! If it is purely for indoor use go for an E010S, if you have a garden that is not viable for your 210, the Tiny7 will serve you well when the weather improves. Realistically I think a whoop is all about the change in perspective that it gives you for your everyday environment, all of a sudden you start to look at your house and garden with a completely different eye. Have fun! Windless fields and smokeless builds |