Posts: 23 Threads: 4 Likes Received: 6 in 3 posts Likes Given: 7 Joined: May 2017 Reputation: 0 • Posts: 1,290 Threads: 67 Likes Received: 711 in 472 posts Likes Given: 1,216 Joined: Mar 2016 Reputation: 23 Greetings and welcome. A couple of things that I see right off. First you should not be soldering the bullet connectors to the pads on the PDB. The connectors should be cut off and a short length of wire exposed from the insulation, tinned and soldered to the pad. Additionally, I see the potential for a short circuit if there isn't already one. On of your connectors that you soldiered passes right over another pad. I can't tell if it's touching or not and there is another one that is very close. These things can draw a fair amount of current at times and you don't want them cross connecting. You need to try and be as neat and orderly with your wiring as you can. As far as the motors twitching or not working at all....I can't tell for sure in your photos, but it looks as though you only have one ESC hooked up. There will be someone along I am sure that knows more then I do, but these are the things I see. You did good with the photos...whenever you are looking for help troubleshooting one picture is worth a thousand words. Lots of pics and a description of your equipment will help as well. "Damn the torpedoes!!! Full speed ahead!!!" Posts: 347 Threads: 26 Likes Received: 354 in 189 posts Likes Given: 8 Joined: Jun 2016 Reputation: 13 Also you need to "calibrate" your ESCs to your Flight Controller before expecting 100% correct behaviour. But yes do a little tidy up up of the build, then calibrate, then you are set! Calibrate is easy (really short instructions): Plug FC into USB (to power up) - activate motors and set to max throttle. Plug in Battery - ESCs will play a tune then beep twice - then slide to 0 throttle. ESCs will beep and play another tune. Power down and "voila" done - should work next time Posts: 23 Threads: 4 Likes Received: 6 in 3 posts Likes Given: 7 Joined: May 2017 Reputation: 0 24-May-2017, 04:48 AM (This post was last modified: 24-May-2017, 04:49 AM by Nazty.) (24-May-2017, 03:00 AM)sirdude Wrote: /**Greetings and welcome. A couple of things that I see right off. First you should not be soldering the bullet connectors to the pads on the PDB. The connectors should be cut off and a short length of wire exposed from the insulation, tinned and soldered to the pad. Additionally, I see the potential for a short circuit if there isn't already one. On of your connectors that you soldiered passes right over another pad. I can't tell if it's touching or not and there is another one that is very close. These things can draw a fair amount of current at times and you don't want them cross connecting. You need to try and be as neat and orderly with your wiring as you can. As far as the motors twitching or not working at all....I can't tell for sure in your photos, but it looks as though you only have one ESC hooked up. There will be someone along I am sure that knows more then I do, but these are the things I see. You did good with the photos...whenever you are looking for help troubleshooting one picture is worth a thousand words. Lots of pics and a description of your equipment will help as well. **/ Ok, I'm a totally new to soldering and circuitry in general. So, when you say tin the exposed copper wire. Do you mean to just solder the wire? Or, is there other material I should use, or could use for that matter? The solder I'm currently using is silver bearing. I took out the other 3 ESC to just figure out the wiring of just one ESC. Thank you for the wiring techniques! • Posts: 23 Threads: 4 Likes Received: 6 in 3 posts Likes Given: 7 Joined: May 2017 Reputation: 0 24-May-2017, 06:00 AM (This post was last modified: 24-May-2017, 06:05 AM by Nazty.) So I soldered without the bullets, and I still receive the same issue. Could it be that the motors are damaged? • Posts: 23 Threads: 4 Likes Received: 6 in 3 posts Likes Given: 7 Joined: May 2017 Reputation: 0 • Posts: 1,590 Threads: 89 Likes Received: 1,283 in 768 posts Likes Given: 1,274 Joined: Jan 2017 Reputation: 31 I probably wont be the one to help you but some questions that might help others: What motor protocol are you using? Which ESCs? The FC looks like an Afroflight Naze32 Rev 6 which is probably running betaflight or cleanflight right? What have you configured so far in your flight controller configurator (high level, not the exact settings) carl.vegas Current Quads: Operational: Diatone GT2 200 In need of repair: Bumble Bee, tehStein, Slightly modified Vortex 250 • Posts: 2,416 Threads: 51 Likes Received: 1,861 in 1,175 posts Likes Given: 3,315 Joined: Mar 2016 Reputation: 74 25-May-2017, 12:28 PM (This post was last modified: 25-May-2017, 12:31 PM by sloscotty.) If you are new to soldering, and using silver-bearing solder, you are likely to be having trouble with your solder joints. I don't use it, but I understand Silver-bearing solder, while making stronger joints, requires higher temps and is harder to work with. Get some 60/40 rosin core or 63/37 (better), and use flux. Check out this thread: http://intofpv.com/t-how-not-to-solder Posts: 1,590 Threads: 89 Likes Received: 1,283 in 768 posts Likes Given: 1,274 Joined: Jan 2017 Reputation: 31 (25-May-2017, 12:28 PM)sloscotty Wrote: If you are new to soldering, and using silver-bearing solder, you are likely to be having trouble with your solder joints. I don't use it, but I understand Silver-bearing solder, while making stronger joints, requires higher temps and is harder to work with. Get some 60/40 rosin core or 63/37 (better), and use flux. Check out this thread: http://intofpv.com/t-how-not-to-solder +1 on the thread... I learned half of what I know about soldering from that thread (OK, so maybe I don't know a ton... but still) It's a very useful thread! carl.vegas Current Quads: Operational: Diatone GT2 200 In need of repair: Bumble Bee, tehStein, Slightly modified Vortex 250 • Posts: 1,149 Threads: 50 Likes Received: 704 in 450 posts Likes Given: 1,189 Joined: Sep 2016 Reputation: 30 Could it be you are using pwm protocol/escs with latest betaflight or cleanflight? Could be bugs in the firmware then, especially if it's a naze... • Posts: 155 Threads: 29 Likes Received: 36 in 28 posts Likes Given: 68 Joined: Apr 2017 Reputation: 0 First things first :-) 1- Your solder doesn't look any good my friend, and this can potentially lead to issues like this. put more solder, it will also help to keep your build safer in case of minor accidents. 2 - I´m having exactly the same motor issues you are having and the problem (in my case) is a damaged ESC + damaged motor. How do I know ? a) re-did all the solders related to this ESC/motor. b) changed the motor for another motor I know is working fine. Is impossible to say the cause of your problem is the same, as suggested try to do the ESC calibration before anything else, it´s very simple. a short circuit on the motor/esc cables while trying to run can damage both ESC + motor, ask me how I know , so be aware it can happen • Posts: 23 Threads: 4 Likes Received: 6 in 3 posts Likes Given: 7 Joined: May 2017 Reputation: 0 Sorry guys, problem solved. Indeed it was the soldering that was ineffective. So, I soldered the wires again, and all motors work correctly. Thank you! Posts: 1,590 Threads: 89 Likes Received: 1,283 in 768 posts Likes Given: 1,274 Joined: Jan 2017 Reputation: 31 (27-May-2017, 05:55 AM)Nazty Wrote: Sorry guys, problem solved. Indeed it was the soldering that was ineffective. So, I soldered the wires again, and all motors work correctly. Thank you! Awesome! glad you got it sorted. carl.vegas Current Quads: Operational: Diatone GT2 200 In need of repair: Bumble Bee, tehStein, Slightly modified Vortex 250 • Posts: 2,410 Threads: 136 Likes Received: 1,790 in 1,052 posts Likes Given: 3,302 Joined: Jan 2017 Reputation: 50 (27-May-2017, 05:55 AM)Nazty Wrote: Sorry guys, problem solved. Indeed it was the soldering that was ineffective. So, I soldered the wires again, and all motors work correctly. Thank you! Don't be sorry. Thats what we are all here for, helping each other out and finding solutions. We all started in the same place too Posts: 1,590 Threads: 89 Likes Received: 1,283 in 768 posts Likes Given: 1,274 Joined: Jan 2017 Reputation: 31 (27-May-2017, 12:49 PM)Drone0fPrey Wrote: Don't be sorry. Thats what we are all here for, helping each other out and finding solutions. We all started in the same place too Yep, every time you share your lessons with us we all learn more as well! Even for experienced folks the process of troubleshooting expands the mind and helps it to be more capable of finding solutions in the future. carl.vegas Current Quads: Operational: Diatone GT2 200 In need of repair: Bumble Bee, tehStein, Slightly modified Vortex 250 • |