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Skyline32 Advanced HELP
#1
I just built a Arris 300 and am using a Matek voltage regulator and the Skyline 32, SimonK 20a and Emax 2207 motors, Taranus Plus TX and it's matching X8R RX.

I set it up on Cleanflight. It setup well and the motors wind up fine with battery connected (no props) in Cleanflight but they don't work at all in using the TX. I can hook up a servo to all the channels and they respond but nothing on the motors.

The Arris body plate had a printed circuit built into it and I wired it and tested everything with a volt/ohm tester. Motors are wired to it and I plug the four control wires to the FC motor channels. I had to put on a voltage regulator as the arris didn't put out 3.3v for the GPS. The LED tape-strip has 28 assigned on it but won't come on....soldering is good.

I'm wondering if I'm missing something or have a bad FC Doe's any buddy have any ideas??? As you all know...overseas instructions have "limitations"....

Looks neat sitting on the table but that's not the idea....

Thanks!
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#2
sounds like your quadcopter is not arming...

1. check RC receiver tab, your channels are working correctly
2. Also make sure your throttle goes below min check

check out this post also: http://intofpv.com/t-signal-not-getting-to-motors
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#3
(10-Apr-2016, 02:14 AM)Oscar Wrote: sounds like your quadcopter is not arming...

1. check RC receiver tab, your channels are working correctly
2. Also make sure your throttle goes below min check

check out this post also: http://intofpv.com/t-signal-not-getting-to-motors

+1..What he said. Big Grin
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#4
I did check the settings for the motor start-up and it was 1000 in Cleanflight and they start when I have it on battery power and plugged into Cleanflight for setup and testing. But on just battery, the motors make the tones of arming but don't spin-up.

Putting a servo on each channel shows movement with the controls. I also checked all the connections on the main PDB which was the main part of the frame and made sure that I had power at each ESC but I didn't like the quality of the PCB and the solder connections (rings)built into the board as they would fall out or off the board. That is why I tested everything before assembly. I doubt if it would spin-up if the connections were wrong or poor using Cleanflight.

I did see the Cleanflight issue between 1.8.x and the 1.2.1 I am now using so that's not it.... I'm thinking it's something I missed with the Skyline32 as I'm new to it....
I'm using a Taranus Plus and matching receiver bound using Sbus and channels 1-7 are spoken for...

Thanks for all the help I can get!
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#5
(11-Apr-2016, 03:16 AM)jcjenks Wrote: I did check the settings for the motor start-up and it was 1000 in Cleanflight and they start when I have it on battery power and plugged into Cleanflight for setup and testing. But on just battery, the motors make the tones of arming but don't spin-up.

Putting a servo on each channel shows movement with the controls. I also checked all the connections on the main PDB which was the main part of the frame and made sure that I had power at each ESC but I didn't like the quality of the PCB and the solder connections (rings)built into the board as they would fall out or off the board. That is why I tested everything before assembly. I doubt if it would spin-up if the connections were wrong or poor using Cleanflight.

I did see the Cleanflight issue between 1.8.x and the 1.2.1 I am now using so that's not it.... I'm thinking it's something I missed with the Skyline32 as I'm new to it....
I'm using a Taranus Plus and matching receiver bound using Sbus and channels 1-7 are spoken for...

Thanks for all the help I can get!

Just a "getting back to basics" question.

Did you create a model in your Taranis and then "bind" to the X8R?
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#6
Hi Hebrews12v2 (I really like your title),

Yes, I did set it up in that order and bound it in D16 mode and I have chosen 1 through 16 channels if needed but I'm using 7 and bound it through the SBus port as I would like to use SBus. My quad is from Arris and the FC is the Skyline 32. The way the board is setup (which I'm not totally for) The ESC's are wired to the main body circuit board...so the ESC's get their power from their lugs in the board and the control signal goes to a set of 4 hole (now pins) on the right side numbers M1-4. I went to the motor control "pinout" and ran the first wire (red & brown) to the BEC's 5v output and then I took the first 4 yellow wires and ran them to a 4 connection plug that I can plug into the main board. With cleanflight running and the quad on the battery, I can power up the motors and they all spin according to specs, direction included. But on just the radio and battery, there isn't any set of tones on plugin from the ESC's.

The printed circuit was rough to solder onto as the little "rings" for the wires would fall off when heated with my soldering station. So before I assembled anything, I tested it all on both sides with a VOM and added some pins for power points to use. The instructions for the FC and the model have poor schematics and little documentation. So I'm wondering if it was a wiring issue but then it wouldn't turn on using Clean flight.......

I've done electronics for years on and off and the last RC work I did was in Cameroon as we were serving as missionaries there and flew from the landing strip where we kept our planes. Even my like new Hitec Eclipse 7 couldn't be used as it wouldn't talk to any new style receiver even with the new 2.4 module.

Thanks for any help that you can give me...I will work on this until it flies (under it's own power).

JCJenks
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#7
(17-Apr-2016, 10:31 PM)jcjenks Wrote: Hi Hebrews12v2 (I really like your title),

Yes, I did set it up in that order and bound it in D16 mode and I have chosen 1 through 16 channels if needed but I'm using 7 and bound it through the SBus port as I would like to use SBus. My quad is from Arris and the FC is the Skyline 32. The way the board is setup (which I'm not totally for) The ESC's are wired to the main body circuit board...so the ESC's get their power from their lugs in the board and the control signal goes to a set of 4 hole (now pins) on the right side numbers M1-4. I went to the motor control "pinout" and ran the first wire (red & brown) to the BEC's 5v output and then I took the first 4 yellow wires and ran them to a 4 connection plug that I can plug into the main board. With cleanflight running and the quad on the battery, I can power up the motors and they all spin according to specs, direction included. But on just the radio and battery, there isn't any set of tones on plugin from the ESC's.

The printed circuit was rough to solder onto as the little "rings" for the wires would fall off when heated with my soldering station. So before I assembled anything, I tested it all on both sides with a VOM and added some pins for power points to use. The instructions for the FC and the model have poor schematics and little documentation. So I'm wondering if it was a wiring issue but then it wouldn't turn on using Clean flight.......

I've done electronics for years on and off and the last RC work I did was in Cameroon as we were serving as missionaries there and flew from the landing strip where we kept our planes. Even my like new Hitec Eclipse 7 couldn't be used as it wouldn't talk to any new style receiver even with the new 2.4 module.

Thanks for any help that you can give me...I will work on this until it flies (under it's own power).

JCJenks

I've got a few of these advanced version skyline32s.
I seems like you can control each motor through CleanFliight, but not with the radio.
Maybe I missed this in the thread, "back to basics" stuff:
1) Be sure the flight controller is level or it will not arm,
2) In CleanFlight configuration, maybe the receiver protocol (SBUS) is not set?
3) There is a 5V pad on the backside of the FC, is this how you power your FC when using battery?
4) Make sure you have ground connections all around?
5) Do you have a wiring diagram you can post?
6) You may need to map some channels if you are not using 1-4 for the basic controls

I've attached a  Skyline32 manual. I use the EMAX flavor.

.pdf   EMAX Skyline32 FC.pdf (Size: 734 KB / Downloads: 1,756)

Good luck!
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#8
Hi Rdww60,

Yea, 
the motors will run when powered up through Cleanflight with an attached battery.
I did level the model and set the accellerometer without problems.
I did bind it through the Sbus and that wire "set" is connected to the FC pins 1-3 which are (neg, pos, power input) and signal.
The  rest of the signal wires are 1-4 on the receiver and 4-8 on the FC.
The FC is powered from a voltage reg (Matek 5 in1 BEC) taking it's power from the Arris board's battery voltage pins (I installed) which are just outside of the OSD connection. Those pins have full bat. voltage. the outer solder connections are for the ESC's
 The Matek provides 5 volts to the FC and anything else that needs it and 3.3v to the GPS.
I tested all connections after soldering them because the printed circuit is poor quality and the solder terminals used to fall off when you heated them with a solder station...not a regular soldering gun.
Not shown on the scan of their power PCB were 4 holes where you could solder your ESC's signal wires. I installed pins and a 4 pin plug. With bat. each motor powers up according to Cleanflight...right motor and right direction. All the grounds are fine.
I figure it's with the FC - Taranus config even though it works fine with CF.
All the ESC's (SimonK 20amp) make their tones. I was going to check the config of each ESC but the little meter didn't work that I purchased so....

Thanks for the newer v1.2 manual and here is the scanned PCB

Thanks,

Jcjenks


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#9
(20-Apr-2016, 02:29 AM)jcjenks Wrote: Hi Rdww60,

Yea, 
the motors will run when powered up through Cleanflight with an attached battery.
I did level the model and set the accellerometer without problems.
I did bind it through the Sbus and that wire "set" is connected to the FC pins 1-3 which are (neg, pos, power input) and signal.
The  rest of the signal wires are 1-4 on the receiver and 4-8 on the FC.
The FC is powered from a voltage reg (Matek 5 in1 BEC) taking it's power from the Arris board's battery voltage pins (I installed) which are just outside of the OSD connection. Those pins have full bat. voltage. the outer solder connections are for the ESC's
 The Matek provides 5 volts to the FC and anything else that needs it and 3.3v to the GPS.
I tested all connections after soldering them because the printed circuit is poor quality and the solder terminals used to fall off when you heated them with a solder station...not a regular soldering gun.
Not shown on the scan of their power PCB were 4 holes where you could solder your ESC's signal wires. I installed pins and a 4 pin plug. With bat. each motor powers up according to Cleanflight...right motor and right direction. All the grounds are fine.
I figure it's with the FC - Taranus config even though it works fine with CF.
All the ESC's (SimonK 20amp) make their tones. I was going to check the config of each ESC but the little meter didn't work that I purchased so....

Thanks for the newer v1.2 manual and here is the scanned PCB

Thanks,

Jcjenks

Previously you wrote: "But on just the radio and battery, there isn't any set of tones on plugin from the ESC's."

No tones from ESCs on plug in to battery without USB connected?

So what you're saying, is that you must have the USB connection to the Skyline32 to be able to control the motors through CleanFlight?

In CleanFlight, under the receiver tab, all your sticks operate from your transmitter?

You really need that meter...to verify the 5V to the FC is really there and the battery voltage to the ESCs is at the ESCa. The ESCs should beep on connection to battery without the FC, but with a motor connected (as I recall, I will double check tonight).

I have the EMAX Skyline32 Advanced V1.1, what is yours?
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#10
Hi,

I do get tones from the ESC's via battery but all 4 of them at one time normal). By design the ESC's are sandwiched between the  2 carbon fiber layers of the arms. I used 2mm bullet connectors to the motors which are Emax 2207's. The ESC wires are soldered directly to the PBD. In a way I'm wishing that I had put some sort of connector there so that I could check the setting on the ESC's as I read more... 

Yes, I can run up the motor's only in CleanFlight, one at a time or all together. Bottom RPM is set to 1000 and high end at 2000 RPM. Under just battery, when you plug it in you get your tones and the motors might turn just enough to line up with their poles but that is it.

I don't get any changes in the "bar scale" when working the controls. I have them setup TAER using the setup wizard but I had tried in a different order I saw in a YouTube video but it was the same.

I have checked all the voltages and they are fine so it something to do with ESC control at the Taranus. I have plugged some spare servos to the receiver channels and I can operate them using the radio. Again I'm using Sbus to the first three wires of the RC In connector and the motor signal wires are running from the PWM Out wires 3 through 7. Number one brown wire and #2 red wire are going to the Matek 5v supply. This could be the problem...... I was planning on using one wire to signal each motor to power up.

I believe mine was a version 1.2 but I had an instruction set for 1.1

Any ideas from this info? From what I have read, I can do a CLI dump that would show you the software settings....

Thanks again,

JCJenks
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#11
(20-Apr-2016, 07:20 PM)rdww60 Wrote: . The ESCs should beep on connection to battery without the FC, but with a motor connected (as I recall, I will double check tonight).

The ESC's do not beep it is actually the Motors that Beep when connected to the ESC, So yes, you are correct. Big Grin
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#12
(21-Apr-2016, 02:58 AM)jcjenks Wrote: Yes, I can run up the motor's only in CleanFlight, one at a time or all together. Bottom RPM is set to 1000 and high end at 2000 RPM. Under just battery, when you plug it in you get your tones and the motors might turn just enough to line up with their poles but that is it.

I don't get any changes in the "bar scale" when working the controls. I have them setup TAER using the setup wizard but I had tried in a different order I saw in a YouTube video but it was the same.

I have checked all the voltages and they are fine so it something to do with ESC control at the Taranus. I have plugged some spare servos to the receiver channels and I can operate them using the radio. Again I'm using Sbus to the first three wires of the RC In connector and the motor signal wires are running from the PWM Out wires 3 through 7. Number one brown wire and #2 red wire are going to the Matek 5v supply. This could be the problem...... I was planning on using one wire to signal each motor to power up.

"Bottom RPM is set to 1000 and high end at 2000 RPM" -  I though bottom RPM should be set to the value you determine by using the motor slider in CleanFlight? I need to double check this.

"I don't get any changes in the "bar scale" when working the controls." - This is in the receiver tab, and when you move your sticks, the bar scale doesn't move?

I see BigglesFPV was able to also confirm the beep, so good news.

I think we're getting warm, can you try an experiment?
I want to test if it is the channel mapping. I see a lot of dialog mentioning that channels 1-4 must be AETR1234. So an you try not mapping the motors (BTW 3-7 is 5 motors?)? Just use 1-4 and see if things start to work properly for that mapping (This is pretty much what Oscar was pointing to above, some channel mapping issue).

Keep us posted.
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#13
Hi All, I have just purchased a Night Hawk Pro 250, second hand. First dabble into a race drone. I have just pulled it all apart to clean it up and change things around as the battery was mounted within the frame and not on top so cable tied under the top part of the top section of the frame. Anyway, I have a Skyline32 v1.1 controller and wanted to know if is is possible to connect a Futaba R6303SB receiver through sbus to the controller and how would be the best way of doing this? It is presently configured to Baseflight not that I know as yet any thing about the difference between Cleanflight and Baseflight, the learning curve is somewhat steep. As I have this receiver I would like to use it if possible through a Futaba 14sg transmitter. The main reason to shift to something like a race drone is to learn how to use a drone mainly through FPV as I am blind in one eye and have some difficulty in depth as I don't believe I see in 3D. Been to one of those dome things and they were showing this amazing picture like travelling through different terrain and over mountains etc. and most of the people around me were either falling over or ducking or doing strange movement. I just stood there not knowing what was going on until I spoke to the wife after. Any help would be appreciated.
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#14
(10-Mar-2017, 03:49 PM)scmeyn Wrote: Hi All, I have just purchased a Night Hawk Pro 250, second hand.  First dabble into a race drone.  I have just pulled it all apart to clean it up and change things around as the battery was mounted within the frame and not on top so cable tied under the top part of the top section of the frame.  Anyway, I have a Skyline32 v1.1 controller and wanted to know if is is possible to connect a Futaba R6303SB receiver through sbus to the controller and how would be the best way of doing this?   It is presently configured to Baseflight not that I know as yet any thing about the difference between Cleanflight and Baseflight, the learning curve is somewhat steep. As I have this receiver I would like to use it if possible through a Futaba 14sg transmitter.  The main reason to shift to something like a race drone is to learn how to use a drone mainly through FPV as I am blind in one eye and have some difficulty in depth as I don't believe I see in 3D.  Been to one of those dome things and they were showing this amazing picture like travelling through different terrain and over mountains etc. and most of the people around me were either falling over or ducking or doing strange movement.  I just stood there not knowing what was going on until I spoke to the wife after.  Any help would be appreciated.

You'll get more help if you start your own thread rather than adding yourself to the end of someone else's thread.

I don't know if Baseflight even supports S-Bus; it is rather old. An older version of Cleanflight (like 1.13) will probably run really well on the Skyline32. I believe it looks like a Naze32 to the flight controller firmware.

To connect an S-Bus receiver, you need to connect to UART2, which will be on the PWM receiver inputs when you enable a serial receiver. The Cleanflight documentation shows which pins change their function on the Naze32 when you enable SerialRX.

Sorry to hear you are blind in one eye. You certainly can't have 3D vision with just one eye, but with FPV you don't get a 3D picture anyway as what you are flying also only has one eye!
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