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Series charging 1s lipo diy cable question.
#1
Hello,

I have a diy cable as in attached diagram, which I use to charge three 1s lipos by setting end voltage as 12.6 and it get detected as 3s. All works well.

I found in a YouTube video that, the same cable can be used charge two 1s lipos by shorting the 3rd battery connector.
Before I attempt, I want to ask here to make sure I am not doing anything stupid.

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#2
Here is a clearer diagram:

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#3
(28-Feb-2022, 10:40 PM)kafie1980 Wrote: Here is a clearer diagram:

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Thank you.
Let’s say, I don’t have cell#3 to use with this cable, can I short that and still able to use the same cable to charge two batteries?
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#4
This depends upon the Charger. As kafie's diagram makes clear, while current can pass across the two connected cells, the charger balance lead will see a short circuit for cell 3.

IF you have pre-selected 2S, some chargers will allow this, but the question is not if it will work but rather should you do it, as it skirts a very fine line if any mistake is made or the more complex wiring fail.

There is a reason that most multi leads sold are parallel, as they are simpler and inherently somewhat safer.

I use parallel charging a lot, as for the school club I run I'm charging around 150 1S twice a week. No way could this happen on single connections. Five years experience, no issues.
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(01-Mar-2022, 07:16 AM)BadRaven Wrote: This depends upon the Charger.  As kafie's diagram makes clear, while current can pass across the two connected cells, the charger balance lead will see a short circuit for cell 3.

IF you have pre-selected 2S, some chargers will allow this, but the question is not if it will work but rather should you do it, as it skirts a very fine line if any mistake is made or the more complex wiring fail.

There is a reason that most multi leads sold are parallel, as they are simpler and inherently somewhat safer.

I use parallel charging a lot, as for the school club I run I'm charging around 150 1S twice a week. No way could this happen on single connections.  Five years experience, no issues.

So you are saying even if I use three 1s lipos and use above cable to charge to 12.6V @ 0.3A, it’s still not safe?

Do you mind giving a parallel charging wiring setup.
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#6
i would gor for parallel charging these cells
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#7
(01-Mar-2022, 11:36 AM)hugnosed_bat Wrote: i would gor for parallel charging these cells
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I was hoping some one can link a diagram, so that I understand how it is done as diy.
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#8
Again, another problem I see with parallel charging 1s with my current charger (toolkit m7) is,
It can do only balance charge. If I connect a 1s lipo directly without any balance port, charger simply throws balance port error.
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#9
on my toolkitrc m6is no issue on 1s, even "auto cellcount detection" works on 1s. maybe there is a software update for your m7?
that shouldnt be, 1s is a way more easy task than balance charge - terrible if its not supported software wise Undecided
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#10
I series charge 1s cells with a similar 4s harness to charge 4 lipos at the same time.

The main downfall with series charging us that if all the cells dont start at the same nominal voltage then the charger will detect a balance anomaly and charge at the lower balance charging rate to get the mismatched voltage equal across the individual cells again. Safe but slow.
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#11
(02-Mar-2022, 02:08 PM)hugnosed_bat Wrote: on my toolkitrc m6is no issue on 1s, even "auto cellcount detection" works on 1s. maybe there is a software update for your m7?
that shouldnt be, 1s is a way more easy task than balance charge - terrible if its not supported software wise Undecided

I see there is v2.01 (mine is v2.00).
I wonder if this will address the issue. But no release notes available.
Also I don’t know how to go back to 2.00 if 2.01 create more problems.
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#12
these arent beta versions, i guess there wont be a need to step back, it should be an improvement.
i updated my m6 once, i beleive downgrade would be the same way. for the m6 older versions was also available on the website if i remember well.
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#13
(03-Mar-2022, 07:55 AM)hugnosed_bat Wrote: these arent beta versions, i guess there wont be a need to step back, it should be an improvement.
i updated my m6 once, i beleive downgrade would be the same way. for the m6 older versions was also available on the website if i remember well.

I took v2.01 update and now I can charge 1s lipo.
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#14
nice :-)
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