Posts: 473 Threads: 105 Likes Received: 54 in 41 posts Likes Given: 33 Joined: Aug 2018 Reputation: 0 28-Feb-2022, 07:36 PM (This post was last modified: 28-Feb-2022, 08:08 PM by sim_tcr.) Hello, I have a diy cable as in attached diagram, which I use to charge three 1s lipos by setting end voltage as 12.6 and it get detected as 3s. All works well. I found in a YouTube video that, the same cable can be used charge two 1s lipos by shorting the 3rd battery connector. Before I attempt, I want to ask here to make sure I am not doing anything stupid. Thanks. • Posts: 4,550 Threads: 38 Likes Received: 1,245 in 1,064 posts Likes Given: 430 Joined: Aug 2020 Reputation: 118 Here is a clearer diagram: • Posts: 473 Threads: 105 Likes Received: 54 in 41 posts Likes Given: 33 Joined: Aug 2018 Reputation: 0 (28-Feb-2022, 10:40 PM)kafie1980 Wrote: Here is a clearer diagram: Thank you. Let’s say, I don’t have cell#3 to use with this cable, can I short that and still able to use the same cable to charge two batteries? • Posts: 930 Threads: 69 Likes Received: 339 in 253 posts Likes Given: 154 Joined: Dec 2021 Reputation: 19 This depends upon the Charger. As kafie's diagram makes clear, while current can pass across the two connected cells, the charger balance lead will see a short circuit for cell 3. IF you have pre-selected 2S, some chargers will allow this, but the question is not if it will work but rather should you do it, as it skirts a very fine line if any mistake is made or the more complex wiring fail. There is a reason that most multi leads sold are parallel, as they are simpler and inherently somewhat safer. I use parallel charging a lot, as for the school club I run I'm charging around 150 1S twice a week. No way could this happen on single connections. Five years experience, no issues. • Posts: 473 Threads: 105 Likes Received: 54 in 41 posts Likes Given: 33 Joined: Aug 2018 Reputation: 0 (01-Mar-2022, 07:16 AM)BadRaven Wrote: This depends upon the Charger. As kafie's diagram makes clear, while current can pass across the two connected cells, the charger balance lead will see a short circuit for cell 3. IF you have pre-selected 2S, some chargers will allow this, but the question is not if it will work but rather should you do it, as it skirts a very fine line if any mistake is made or the more complex wiring fail. There is a reason that most multi leads sold are parallel, as they are simpler and inherently somewhat safer. I use parallel charging a lot, as for the school club I run I'm charging around 150 1S twice a week. No way could this happen on single connections. Five years experience, no issues. So you are saying even if I use three 1s lipos and use above cable to charge to 12.6V @ 0.3A, it’s still not safe? Do you mind giving a parallel charging wiring setup. • Posts: 6,096 Threads: 172 Likes Received: 2,283 in 1,830 posts Likes Given: 4,727 Joined: Feb 2019 Reputation: 100 i would gor for parallel charging these cells • Posts: 473 Threads: 105 Likes Received: 54 in 41 posts Likes Given: 33 Joined: Aug 2018 Reputation: 0 (01-Mar-2022, 11:36 AM)hugnosed_bat Wrote: i would gor for parallel charging these cells I was hoping some one can link a diagram, so that I understand how it is done as diy. • Posts: 473 Threads: 105 Likes Received: 54 in 41 posts Likes Given: 33 Joined: Aug 2018 Reputation: 0 Again, another problem I see with parallel charging 1s with my current charger (toolkit m7) is, It can do only balance charge. If I connect a 1s lipo directly without any balance port, charger simply throws balance port error. • Posts: 6,096 Threads: 172 Likes Received: 2,283 in 1,830 posts Likes Given: 4,727 Joined: Feb 2019 Reputation: 100 02-Mar-2022, 02:08 PM (This post was last modified: 02-Mar-2022, 02:10 PM by hugnosed_bat.) on my toolkitrc m6is no issue on 1s, even "auto cellcount detection" works on 1s. maybe there is a software update for your m7? that shouldnt be, 1s is a way more easy task than balance charge - terrible if its not supported software wise • Posts: 1,367 Threads: 118 Likes Received: 1,411 in 728 posts Likes Given: 1,072 Joined: Jun 2019 Reputation: 41 I series charge 1s cells with a similar 4s harness to charge 4 lipos at the same time. The main downfall with series charging us that if all the cells dont start at the same nominal voltage then the charger will detect a balance anomaly and charge at the lower balance charging rate to get the mismatched voltage equal across the individual cells again. Safe but slow. • Posts: 473 Threads: 105 Likes Received: 54 in 41 posts Likes Given: 33 Joined: Aug 2018 Reputation: 0 (02-Mar-2022, 02:08 PM)hugnosed_bat Wrote: on my toolkitrc m6is no issue on 1s, even "auto cellcount detection" works on 1s. maybe there is a software update for your m7? that shouldnt be, 1s is a way more easy task than balance charge - terrible if its not supported software wise I see there is v2.01 (mine is v2.00). I wonder if this will address the issue. But no release notes available. Also I don’t know how to go back to 2.00 if 2.01 create more problems. • Posts: 6,096 Threads: 172 Likes Received: 2,283 in 1,830 posts Likes Given: 4,727 Joined: Feb 2019 Reputation: 100 these arent beta versions, i guess there wont be a need to step back, it should be an improvement. i updated my m6 once, i beleive downgrade would be the same way. for the m6 older versions was also available on the website if i remember well. • Posts: 473 Threads: 105 Likes Received: 54 in 41 posts Likes Given: 33 Joined: Aug 2018 Reputation: 0 (03-Mar-2022, 07:55 AM)hugnosed_bat Wrote: these arent beta versions, i guess there wont be a need to step back, it should be an improvement. i updated my m6 once, i beleive downgrade would be the same way. for the m6 older versions was also available on the website if i remember well. I took v2.01 update and now I can charge 1s lipo. • Posts: 6,096 Threads: 172 Likes Received: 2,283 in 1,830 posts Likes Given: 4,727 Joined: Feb 2019 Reputation: 100 • |