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NEW TO RACING
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Hey everyone JD here ( new user) no stranger to RC did Planes, cars, and Heli's.  i want to build a racer but im Super confused about all the equipment matching !!!!! i choose this !!!!
SunFounder 250 FPV Quadcopter Drone Frame Kit CC3D ESC Simon 12A Motor MT2204 Carbon Fiber Racing Flying 4-Axis Propellers Battery Balance Charger for Openpilot EMAX Lumenier QAV250 .. and a 
[b]SunFounder FPV Image Transceiver Kit with 700TVL HD Camera + 200mW Mini TS5823 32 Channel AV Transmitter + 5.8G Mushroom Antenna for Quadcopter QAV250 ZMR250 Q250 QAV210 QAV180 and a
[b]FrSky Taranis X9D PLUS 2.4ghz Radio Transmitter with Mode2 for FPV  and
[b]FrSky Taranis Compatible Receiver X8R 8-channel 2.4ghz ACCST&RSSI&SBUS Easy To Use Receiver 
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[b][b][b]is all this stuff compatable with each other ???  and do i need anything else ??  [/b][/b][/b]

[b][b][b]please help !!!!!  [/b][/b][/b]

[b][b][b]or does anyone RECOMMEND a good all in one Kit.    has to be a DYI though !!!!  thanks JD[/b][/b][/b]
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So FrSky RX are compatible with FrSky radios, but even if the quad has an RX for a different protocol, it is usually not hard to change the RX to one that it.  You have not mentioned a budget...

That frame does not look like it would last long learning to fly a quad and definitely will be pieces if raced.

This is likely a better choice: Qaud Kit

I have used a frame similar to the one I link to for a couple of builds, plenty of room for components and I can attest to it being robust!

Honestly, I would start reading through build logs to see what we are using and why.  YouTube has some good videos to get you started as well.



Several forum members have built these and this will give you a great quad to start with and it is DIY!

Remember, you need goggles as well.
SoCal Kaity :D
OMG, no one told me it would be this much fun!  Addicted :)
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#3
Oscar just posted a budget build. You should do that. Way better than what you are thinking with the kit above.

http://intofpv.com/t-a-180-budget-build

Few things I would change.
Motors emax RS2306 on ebay $29 instead. Saves you $7.
Spend the extra $7 on Matek VTX $28 on Banggood.
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#4
(10-Dec-2017, 03:37 PM)kaitylynn Wrote: So FrSky RX are compatible with FrSky radios, but even if the quad has an RX for a different protocol, it is usually not hard to change the RX to one that it.  You have not mentioned a budget...

That frame does not look like it would last long learning to fly a quad and definitely will be pieces if raced.

This is likely a better choice: Qaud Kit

I have used a frame similar to the one I link to for a couple of builds, plenty of room for components and I can attest to it being robust!

Honestly, I would start reading through build logs to see what we are using and why.  YouTube has some good videos to get you started as well.



Several forum members have built these and this will give you a great quad to start with and it is DIY!

Remember, you need goggles as well.
and yes i will be getting goggles... looking at the Fat Shark dominator of course and as far as budget... dont really have one !!! im a believer in buying better the first time... 
and how do i find out if the radio receiver and build kit are all compatible.... are u saying the choice i made are ok ?????  or is the kit you mentioned Better ????    JD
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#5
If you select a kit with a FrSky RX, you will not have a compatibility issue.  If you buy a kit (or truly DIY with parts) that does not include an RX, then select a FrSky RX like a XM+ or R-XSR and again, you will be fine.

I had not seen Oscars build, thank you for pointing it out VooDoo!

As you can see, there are plenty of ways to build a quad-copter for racing and free style.  All of them are not specific to any protocol, you just have select an RX that is compatible and there are plenty that utilize the FrSky protocol.

the FrSky XM+ is a 16 channel RX with RSSI for about $13.  It is about half the size and less weight compared to the X8R, but either way it will work.
SoCal Kaity :D
OMG, no one told me it would be this much fun!  Addicted :)
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#6
i think im gonna go with the taranis x9d+ last confusing question i have is .. the receiver !!!!! does a 4 channel frsky D4R-ii or 16 frsky X4RSB 3/16 channel receiver matter ?????
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#7
For a racing quad, either would work.  As long as the RX is FrSky, it will work.
SoCal Kaity :D
OMG, no one told me it would be this much fun!  Addicted :)
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#8
@kaitylynn when I said "the kit above" it was not toward your suggested kit. Nothing wrong with Uav future kit. It was geared toward JD's kit that he wanted to buy.
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#9
@voodoo LOL, I was actually thanking you for pointing out Oscars build and not the UAV build I referenced.
SoCal Kaity :D
OMG, no one told me it would be this much fun!  Addicted :)
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#10
(10-Dec-2017, 04:55 PM)JD Quad Jammer Wrote: Drone Frame Kit CC3D ESC Simon 12A Motor MT2204

Hey JD, the kit you have linked to is using old / outdated hardware, the builds that the guys have linked to above are great, I just thought I would help you understand why no-one is saying "great choice, go build it!"

'SimonK' ESC protocol is no longer being updated, try to find BLHeli ESC's if you get BLHeli_32 ESC, these use the latest (32 bit) MCU (microprocessor).

The CC3D is also an old FC, rather find an F4 or even an F7 flight controller that is compatible with DShot (digital ESC protocol) most current ESC's and FC will be compatible with DShot. If you get BLHeli_32 ESC's you will likely be able to run DShot 1200 (which is the fastest DShot protocol) this means that the FC and ESC can update and change motor operating values faster, which *should* make for a smoother flight.

Also the Emax MT2204 were great motors a year or  so ago, but they are also outdated now, they are only capable of operating on 2S (7.4v) or 3S (11.1v) most newer motors should take 3S & 4S now even 5S and 6S are becoming more readily available.

Anyway, welcome to the best forum for the greatest hobby! Any more questions, just ask...
Windless fields and smokeless builds
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#11
(10-Dec-2017, 10:09 PM)kaitylynn Wrote: @voodoo LOL, I was actually thanking you for pointing out Oscars build and not the UAV build I referenced.

I just did not want any misunderstanding.  Considering how active you are on this forum, surprised you missed the build.

Anyway, have you checked out Oscar video for the build.

http://intofpv.com/t-flight-with-martian-today
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#12
(11-Dec-2017, 06:39 AM)Tom BD Bad Wrote: Hey JD, the kit you have linked to is using old / outdated hardware, the builds that the guys have linked to above are great, I just thought I would help you understand why no-one is saying "great choice, go build it!"

'SimonK' ESC protocol is no longer being updated, try to find BLHeli ESC's if you get BLHeli_32 ESC, these use the latest (32 bit) MCU (microprocessor).

The CC3D is also an old FC, rather find an F4 or even an F7 flight controller that is compatible with DShot (digital ESC protocol) most current ESC's and FC will be compatible with DShot. If you get BLHeli_32 ESC's you will likely be able to run DShot 1200 (which is the fastest DShot protocol) this means that the FC and ESC can update and change motor operating values faster, which *should* make for a smoother flight.

Also the Emax MT2204 were great motors a year or  so ago, but they are also outdated now, they are only capable of operating on 2S (7.4v) or 3S (11.1v) most newer motors should take 3S & 4S now even 5S and 6S are becoming more readily available.

Anyway, welcome to the best forum for the greatest hobby! Any more questions, just ask...

THANKS  TOM
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