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New EASA UAV regulation threatens to destroy the hobby in the EU
#1
I won't go into much detail because the article below already provides a lot of insight but this is very concerning as the DYI drones are the most affected by the new regulation. Basically racing drones will pretty much be banned in EU altogether if this goes through.

http://droneinsider.org/new-easa-drone-r...-industry/

There's more info available on the EASA website, including the 72 page prototype regulation and the 60 page explanation

https://www.easa.europa.eu/easa-and-you/...rones-rpas
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#2
Quote:The purpose of the Technical Opinion was to lay down the foundation for future work, illustrate the contents of the draft changes to the Basic Regulation and serve as guidance for Member States (MS) to develop or modify their regulations on unmanned aircraft.

Doesn't this mean that if it was to come into place Member States would have the ability to decide if they wanted these rules or not?
The CAA in the UK could turn around and say our rules are fine as they are. After all we are in the process of leaving the EU so F*** their rules ROFL ROFL ROFL
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#3
I'm affraid it's more like "minimum" limitations and members can just make it more strict.

UK is not out of EU yet and won't be for some time. This is coming now. If you watched the video, this guy says UK is going to adopt it.

I'm not good in this at all, didn't read the document either. Just seen there are several threads already on RCgroups (and probably other places) about this. This could not affect dyi racers at all or kill the hobby entirely, all might depend on a single footnote or reference to some other document. I'm not competent to interpret any of this.
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#4
Arrrrgh.

Please, evil hobby industry, bribe them! Do something!

lol
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#5
well they could actually take a look at real trouble makers... turtles...
http://www.popsci.com/airplanes-hit-more...han-drones

as far i can see there is a very large delta betwen incidents of aircrafts vs turtles vs drones... and we are tackling such legislations...
or maybe by regulation lets ban fun Smile
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#6
(30-Sep-2016, 09:37 PM)Grisha0 Wrote: well they could actually take a look at real trouble makers... turtles...
http://www.popsci.com/airplanes-hit-more...han-drones

as far i can see there is a very large delta betwen incidents of aircrafts vs turtles vs drones... and we are tackling such legislations...
or maybe by regulation lets ban fun Smile

I'm trying to imagine how a turtle would be able to collide with a plane.
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#7
Here's a link to a petition for those who want to sign:
https://www.change.org/p/https-www-easa-...e_petition
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#8
@Hamsterfpv i think on the runway before they will take off (the turtles)
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#9
Is this the same thing as discussed on RC Groups about FRSky?
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2607537
Does it mean you are screwed if you are living in the EU and have a FRSky transmitter
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#10
(11-Oct-2016, 08:58 PM)Ikkuh Wrote: Is this the same thing as discussed on RC Groups about FRSky?
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2607537
Does it mean you are screwed if you are living in the EU and have a FRSky transmitter

No, they resolved that with a firmware update. I got my Taranis this summer and it even has a sticker to indicate that it's compliant with that.

This is a lot worse, if it goes through what we do will be full on illegal. The category where our DIY quads fall into is limited to:
- 250g total weight
- 54km/h max speed
- can't fly more than 50m high and 100m away (and apparently it must be limited by some kind of hardware device on board, which has to fit within the 250g)

It's madness, it was obviously drafted by someone that has no understanding of what they're dealing with.
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#11
Hi guys, i tried to read through the regulation and obviously, if this will be general regulation for EU and UK, it will kill the hobby completely. In contrast, such drones like DJI will be in fact the only possible way how to legaly fly drones as hobbist.
Well, the question is, what can be done against it. The hydra should be fought with her own weapons.
I have two ideas, how to try to do something, i do not know, if it will help.
Idea Nr.1. EU law says, that every legal document must be translated into every member state language. The proposal is in english, language, which will not be an official EU language. So, if every one non-english drone pilot will urge the EASA to translate the proposal, so the regulation will be prepared in accordance to european legislation, and the local people from the member states can express their proposed changes in respective languages, it could help (at least to postopone the whole thing a bit)
Idea Nr.2 We should write to oue MEPs with the plea that they try to stop this regulation, because this will in very bad way harm a new, rising technological industry because it will prevent young people to study robotic flight, etc etc etc, thus giving oportunity to non eurpena countries to win upper hand in this promising technological area. (Czech republic has few libertarian MPs, who could be willing to help, i bet such people are in EU parlament also from other countries).

What do you think?
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#12
N.2 could be a good start, if we can get the attention of some MEPs they could bring our concern straight where it really matters.
Looking at Poland for example, there are several companies emerging (from the top of my head - Flying Lemon, RotoRacer and DemonRC) which are producing parts for DIY and they'll probably go out of business if this goes through. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that this law affects not only drones but also RC planes, which means that they're willing to kill a hobby that's been around for decades!

If we can put something together I'll do my best to get it to the attention of Portuguese MEPs.

It really drives me nuts that it's legally possible to go around carrying a gun but it may be illegal to responsibly fly a drone soon...
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