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Monoprice Select Plus (Wanhao i3)
#1
I just got this delivered last night.  My first foray into 3D printing and it's awesome!

I have one major question though.  Is it supposed to shake violently before and after a print?  When it starts a print, it calibrates everything, the plate and extruder go to a spot...then it shakes so hard it shakes the desk.  Then it prints (and seems to print great!) and when it finishes, it does the same thing.

I'm guessing this is bad, but is it fixable?
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#2
Video needed!

I don't have one of these printers myself, but I do have a Geeetech acrylic Prusa i3 which is a similar design based on the original Prusa i3.

If mine is changing directions at high speed, it will certainly shake the table it sits on, but what you're describing doesn't sound like that. Does it make a horrible noise at the same time? That could be caused by the end stops not being set properly. But, in the absence of video or photos, all I can do is guess.
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#3
It doesn't happen during the print. "End stops" sounds like something it might be since it seems to happen while the printer is trying to put itself into the "end" positions.
I did notice that the table wasn't super level at the back of it, so I leveled that out and it's better, but not gone.

Will try to get video soon.
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#4
On my printer, at least, there are three micro switches which are activated when the printer is moving to the home position. One for the Z axis to ensure it doesn't try to move down through the print bed, one for the X axis to ensure that the print head stops at the left hand edge of the print bed and one for the Y axis to ensure that the bed is not moved back so far that the head starts off too far forward on the bed.

If any of these micro switches don't activate before the axis moves too far, then the axis becomes physically blocked and the stepper motors will vibrate like hell as they keep trying to move the axis. That's neither good for the stepper motors or the motor drivers, so if you think the problem might be something to do with this, I'd strongly advise you to solve the problem before it blows up the stepper drivers.
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#5
Video of the shaking.

It definitely sounds like what you're talking about unseen. Now the question is how the hell do I fix it?
It's only a week old. Should I just send it back?
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#6
If the printer is brand new and was supposed to come fully set up, then depending on how hard sending it back is, that may be an option. But, we should be able to work out what is causing the problem and see if it can be fixed.

It looks to me as if there is something preventing the print bed from moving back to the home position and that's what's causing the noise which is unmistakably a stepper motor being prevented from moving. What is strange is that the stepper starts to make the noise before the bed has moved all the way back. Then, it actually manages to move the bed back a bit more, implying that it's not completely blocked.

You need to check if the bed is completely free to move. If you remove power from the printer, you should be able to move the bed all the way forwards and all the way backwards without any resistance over and above the resistance created by the belt turning the stepper motor. When the bed gets to the back, it should activate the micro switch at the rear left of the bed assembly.

If there is resistance, check that there is nothing underneath the bed that is obstructing the travel like cables and such.

Test each axis individually by using the "Home" function on the printer's "Tools > Move" menu to confirm which axis is giving the problem. In each case, the axis should move smoothly until the micro switch that senses the home position activates.
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#7
like unseen said, i would check the linear bearings for the bed. What i did to prevent mine from binding (anet a8 printer) was to move the bed back and forth while tightening the screws between the bed holder and the bearing holders
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#8
Good point oyvinia, if the linear bearings are not well aligned with the rails they run on, or the rails themselves are not completely parallel with each other, that will also make the bed bind as it tries to move.

It's not what I'd expect with a printer that is 99% pre-assembled though.
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#9
So I found someone who has the exact same printer who had the same problem. He said there is a switch near the back that the bed should hit and tell the motor to stop, and his was stuck. A simple bend of a metal piece fixed it for him. I'll try to figure that out tonight.

I would much rather fix it than ship it back as that would be a hassle, and learning to work on it is going to benefit me anyway.
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#10
So the fix for that shaking really was as simple as "press on the motor stop lever". It was slightly bent out of shape and immediately went back to the right shape.
That problem has been solved.

In more printing adventures, I printed out an extruder plate to let me do TPU and went through 5 days of issues all stemming from my ignorance. I'm back to printing PLA for now and having bed sticking issues. Probably from the fact that I have 6 dogs.
I seem to be able to print using a raft, so even though that's a lot of wasted plastic I'm sticking with that for now.
I have purchased a glass plate to install and will let you all know how that goes.

Also, I found this link: https://www.showmewhatyoumelt.com/Monopr...ker_Select
Which has some great helpful info on this printer.

Also, also....turns out I bought the Maker Select Plus, but they shipped me the Maker Select V2. It's nearly the same thing, minus some unnecessary frills, so I got a $100 refund and am sticking with this one.
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#11
Good to hear you got it working.

I print on a glass bed and spray the glass with some sticky clear lacquer before printing. I get great adhesion with both PLA and Ninja semiflex.

When you add your glass plate, you may find you need to increase the bed temperature a bit depending on how well the glass sits on the bed. If there's any kind of gap between them, the glass won't reach the same temperature as the bed.
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