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Killing VTXs
#1
Hi everyone!

So I'm very new to this hobby but am loving it. I just built a new mini quad (Armattan Chameleon) with an Omnibus F4 Pro FC, Armattant PDB V3, FrSky XSR, and originally a TBS Unify Pro VTX.

After my first couple of flights my VTX would only give me video if I was pointing straight at it and within a couple feet. I thought I messed up the UFL connector so I had a spare unify pro I swapped for. Same issue happened. I ensured I powered it via a 5V pin as I had to bridge RAM to VCC for full 4S to camera as camera wouldn't produce an image (Omnibus was putting out 4.43V when bridging RAM to 5V so I had to use 4S.)

Because the unify pro only supports 5V I used a spare 5V on the board. The board is rated to supply 5V 3A.

After the second unify pro stopped working I swapped it out for my Aomway 200mW VTX. To use the Aomway I had to solder leads to the RAM pin to get full 4S as it needs at least 7V.

The Aomway worked for quite a while. I actually don't know if it died from a wreck or not where I noticed too late that the SMA male tip broke off. Maybe it over heated without that small piece, but it stopped transmitting altogether. I tried a new antenna on it and confirmed it is done.

The one thing that concerns me, and why I came here to you all and tell this to ...is maybe it's back current from active braking from the ESCs? I was running it pretty hard to see how it performed. I did some 5-10 second punch outs. In blackbox I notice during those punch outs that it couldn't record anything (just missing data for those blocks.)

Any thoughts? How do I keep from eating up VTXs? (I'm also worried that maybe the Omnibus BEC cannot handle the active braking ...and I have Lipo positive lead going into Omnibus FIRST in order to use the FC's onboard current sensor.)

Thanks in advance!
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#2
You are right, reason is most likely voltage spikes fed back from the escs.

Best tip is to fight them at the source: put low-esr caps on escs, or on pdb. There's also filters to smooth voltage between power source and video gear, usually called lc-filter (if you're an audiohead: lc does not mean low-cut in this case - it stands for a spool and something else i don't remember).

PS: there's a good video of a guy testing this with littlebee 20a escs on 4s - voltage spikes went up to 30V if i remember right.
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(27-Feb-2017, 09:47 PM)fftunes Wrote: You are right, reason is most likely voltage spoikes fed back from the escs.

Best tip is to fight them at the source: put low-esr caps on escs, or on pdb. There's also filters to smooth voltage between power source and video gear, usually called lc-filter (if you're an audiohead: lc does not mean low-cut in this case - it stands for a spool and something else i don't remember).

PS: there's a good video of a guy testing this with littlebee 20a escs on 4s - voltage spikes went up to 30V if i remember right.

Awesome! Thank you. I guess I'll install the low-esr cap where the Lipo connects ...before the shunt on the FC for positive and then on the ground on the bottom side of the FC.

Do people put a cap on each of the ESCs?? Or just by the Lipo connection?

I'll look into LC filter too. I ordered a Diatone SP2 ...i wonder if it has a built in LC that will also help.

Thank you for your reply!!
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#4
4x470uf capacitors on all my 5" quads. one on each esc
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#5
Let me reply like that



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All the best
Grzesiek (Grisha/ Greg)

Curently flyable: Nox 5, Minimalist 112
Bench / in progres: fixing Nox 3,  Scrap
thinking about building: 450


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#6
I use 1000uf low esr cap (panasonic) 16v. I know the voltage is not high enough, but none of them failed on me yet and it seems to be working very well.
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#7
Thank you all. I just ordered some 1000uF 25V and 330uF 25V caps. I figured I'd try to see how it fits either putting 330 at the ESC or 1000 at the Lipo connection source.
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