Posts: 6,091 Threads: 172 Likes Received: 2,283 in 1,830 posts Likes Given: 4,718 Joined: Feb 2019 Reputation: 100 04-Mar-2023, 04:50 PM (This post was last modified: 08-Jun-2023, 06:17 PM by hugnosed_bat.) https://www.team-blacksheep.com/products...t_sb5_race i still have a few and love them, they blowout that frame for 1.95 - thats a crime xD it seems the rest of the pilots doesnt know the good things ;-) the world stands upsidedown in fpv ducts all over the world, expensive plastics but hand moulded carbon for 1.95 xD thats sooooo strange hand moulded carbon 5inch quality frame xD why switching cheap carbon quality arms if you can switch a highend frame for a lower price, you night not need to switch it soon, but it would make more sense xD hand moulded carbon is another quality, way higher than t700 t800 and t900 from its build progress. the carbon is assorted in the way the forces come to the frame. it outperforms common carbon plates by stiffness, rigidity and weight - everywhere. i actual didnt break any handmoulded carbonframe, i didnt got any flex in the carbon - they are all still like new after many crashes :-) i can highly suggest that state of art frame, if you plan to build a 5inch racer, get a few of that frame :-) the first framereview i found; Posts: 4,073 Threads: 75 Likes Received: 2,548 in 1,858 posts Likes Given: 3,949 Joined: May 2021 Reputation: 121 05-Mar-2023, 04:56 AM (This post was last modified: 05-Mar-2023, 04:57 AM by Lemonyleprosy.) I don’t fly 5”, but, that is damn tempting. Two 5” frames at $1.95 each ($3.90 for two?!?) is less than the cost of a pack of cigarettes or one decent beer. I could transfer the bits from my heavy Source One frame, or finally put some of the 30x30 electronics I have on my shelf to use… Screw it, I bought 2 frames. Even if I can’t fly them much here, I’ve got the parts to build them, and I’m not going to be able to get a frame of similar quality for even 10x the price. It’ll be significantly lighter than my Source One build, so maybe I can use some smaller motors and some bi-blade or low pitch tri-blades and be comfortable flying it on my property. I regularly fly my lightweight 4” PowerPick, which was the last frame I bought from TBS on blowout for something like $3. They’ve also got some amazing prices on props, like 8x Azure Power 2035 tri-blades for $0.95. Those props are usually $2.99 to $3.99. Dangerous operations. Disclaimer: I don’t know wtf I’m talking about. I wish I could get the smell of burnt electronics out of my nose. Posts: 6,091 Threads: 172 Likes Received: 2,283 in 1,830 posts Likes Given: 4,718 Joined: Feb 2019 Reputation: 100 https://shop.brickracing.com/Frames/Raci...xx-motors) i have this 3inch (matches 3,5" either), sadly there is a price difference to the tbs version xD Posts: 85 Threads: 1 Likes Received: 68 in 47 posts Likes Given: 46 Joined: Dec 2021 Reputation: 7 05-Mar-2023, 01:38 PM (This post was last modified: 05-Mar-2023, 01:55 PM by roteron.) What does “molded by hand” actually mean? Is it forged carbon fibre? • Posts: 180 Threads: 7 Likes Received: 38 in 30 posts Likes Given: 54 Joined: Mar 2023 Reputation: 2 I believe it is just hand laid sheets, resin, and forming to vacuum. At least in my other hobbies, that's what it has come to be accepted as. Posts: 6,091 Threads: 172 Likes Received: 2,283 in 1,830 posts Likes Given: 4,718 Joined: Feb 2019 Reputation: 100 (05-Mar-2023, 02:46 PM)Pennywise Wrote: I believe it is just hand laid sheets, resin, and forming to vacuum. At least in my other hobbies, that's what it has come to be accepted as. i would exclude the word "just": hand laid sheets - something a machibe cant do or not for less money in the actual market situation Posts: 85 Threads: 1 Likes Received: 68 in 47 posts Likes Given: 46 Joined: Dec 2021 Reputation: 7 It’s hard to really tell from the pictures, but the finish doesn’t seem to have any discernible weave, and looks kind of unusual. • Posts: 6,091 Threads: 172 Likes Received: 2,283 in 1,830 posts Likes Given: 4,718 Joined: Feb 2019 Reputation: 100 05-Mar-2023, 10:28 PM (This post was last modified: 05-Mar-2023, 10:49 PM by hugnosed_bat.) sure there are lignes and signs for true carbon ;-) i couldnt do better fotos so far there is the stardust race version without finish and the other one is the 3inch version of the inventor of the frame and builder, brickracing. the brickracing 3inch version has a finish on it @roteron if you would hold one in your hands, it stiffness wont give any question about outstanding quality ;-) thats how true quality carbon looks like :-) as example lr ul frames could show the difference, stiffness on lower weight would bring some more flighttime :-) this was the frame from the inventor https://shop.brickracing.com/Frames/Raci...order=DESC this is the 3inch version i have: https://shop.brickracing.com/Frames/Raci...order=DESC Posts: 85 Threads: 1 Likes Received: 68 in 47 posts Likes Given: 46 Joined: Dec 2021 Reputation: 7 @hugnosed_bat: thanks for going to the trouble of taking pictures. I should also just buy one of those $1.95 frames so I can feel it in the hand... So, it looks like it's kind of made of straight fibre more like how pultruded tube is made rather than a woven fabric? Posts: 6,091 Threads: 172 Likes Received: 2,283 in 1,830 posts Likes Given: 4,718 Joined: Feb 2019 Reputation: 100 its not truly visable, we would need to see a broken one :-) i got the 3inch frame from a buddy which was in contact with the inventor of the frame, my buddy is a true enthusiast and he called the builder a fanatic xD i would realy like to know about the build process and how they laid the carbon fibers, it seems to be a sience by its own :-) my buddy told about a long progress for the result in that brickracing frame, it truly feels like that. im not sure if its straight fibers or waves or how they are assorted maybe we can get more informations about it in the bycicle industry, there are many moulded carbonframes, i just believe - its made by machines in the case of bycicles. the frame of my trek mtb looks like my stardust frame :-) • Posts: 1,490 Threads: 92 Likes Received: 574 in 468 posts Likes Given: 0 Joined: Nov 2020 Reputation: 27 I have the TBS PodRacer 5". I love it. The canopy is weird, and not much space for stack. I can see why others hate it. TBS 5" frames: Podracer 5mm arms, 12mm motors, 47g Stardust 4.5mm arms, 16x19 motors, 65g Umagawd Remix, 5mm arms, 126g SniperX, 5mm arms, 61g SourceV, 63g - I love the vertical arms. TBS Source One - 6mm arms, 123g • Posts: 6,091 Threads: 172 Likes Received: 2,283 in 1,830 posts Likes Given: 4,718 Joined: Feb 2019 Reputation: 100 09-Mar-2023, 04:39 PM (This post was last modified: 09-Mar-2023, 04:41 PM by hugnosed_bat.) (09-Mar-2023, 04:08 PM)romangpro Wrote: I have the TBS PodRacer 5". I love it. The canopy is weird, and not much space for stack. I can see why others hate it. TBS 5" frames: Podracer 5mm arms, 12mm motors, 47g Stardust 4.5mm arms, 16x19 motors, 65g Umagawd Remix, 5mm arms, 126g SniperX, 5mm arms, 61g SourceV, 63g - I love the vertical arms. TBS Source One - 6mm arms, 123g the podracer canopy out of pla is a joke and mounted on 1mm carbonplate either xD thats a shame, it would make more sense to sell it without any canopy than with such a bad one :-) the stardust isnt a tbs invention, its designed by brickracing and tbs did a colaboration, got the right to sell the design. its not compareable to the other tbs frames in many ways. get one roman :-) the a 4inch frame like the podracer, unibody with moulded carbon :-) that would be great :-) • Posts: 1,843 Threads: 203 Likes Received: 346 in 264 posts Likes Given: 306 Joined: May 2020 Reputation: 11 09-Mar-2023, 05:23 PM (This post was last modified: 09-Mar-2023, 05:48 PM by Rob3ddd.) The TBS Stardust is on sale for a 1.95 from team black sheep. I have wanted to build a lightweight 5” racer but for freestyle flying. I may have to order a few. Posts: 21,168 Threads: 581 Likes Received: 8,917 in 6,597 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 786 There seems to have been a bit of confusion in JB's Q&A livestream yesterday as to what "moulded by hand" carbon fibre on the TBS Stardust SB5 Race frame actually meant You can watch that segment of the livestream by clicking the link below... https://youtu.be/iU2XYwQ06Ws?t=3790 Posts: 1,843 Threads: 203 Likes Received: 346 in 264 posts Likes Given: 306 Joined: May 2020 Reputation: 11 I don’t know the method TBS Stardust uses but here’s one way to mold carbon fiber into a precise shape. |