Our goverment is locking down the whole country the next week, things are gonna get wild, many people with no fix income will starve. This is no doubt the best and the worst scenario for us.

(21-Mar-2020, 02:01 PM)CM17X Wrote: Our goverment is locking down the whole country the next week, things are gonna get wild, many people with no fix income will starve. This is no doubt the best and the worst scenario for us.

Panic buying has slowed down where I am, but we supposedly have an announcement about further actions in 4.5hrs, and from what i've heard it wont be good for smaller business.

(22-Mar-2020, 10:32 PM)bffigjam Wrote: Panic buying has slowed down where I am, but we supposedly have an announcement about further actions in 4.5hrs, and from what i've heard it wont be good for smaller business.

No such luck here, yet. The brainless hoarding dunderheads still seem to be out in force. Even though the local supermarkets are now supposed to be restricting items of the same food on a per customer basis, it's been reported by more than one source that people are buying a load of stuff, loading it into their car, and then going back into the shop to get more. It beggars belief.

We needed to get a few essentials yesterday so we braved it and ventured out, but the shelves of all the needed stuff are still being stripped bare. The only consolation is that the cake shelves still seem to have a decent selection of stuff on them, so that will do me nicely We've got 8 toilet rolls left so if we can't get any more in the next couple of weeks we'll be screwed. Almost makes me wish I'd picked some up last week when I saw some on the shelf, but I was being considerate and decided to leave them for other more needy people.

My mother also told me that someone had phoned into the local radio station and said that their local electrical retailers were selling freezers like hot cakes with one guy buying five in one go. I would like to think that was nothing to do with hoarding stuff, but if it was then the guy clearly has more cash than he has brain cells.

You would have to be forgiven for thinking that there was some kind of apocalypse going on. I think some of people have been watching far too many episodes of The Walking Dead.

(22-Mar-2020, 11:46 PM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: No such luck here, yet. The brainless hoarding dunderheads still seem to be out in force. Even though the local supermarkets are now supposed to be restricting items of the same food on a per customer basis, it's been reported by more than one source that people are buying a load of stuff, loading it into their car, and then going back into the shop to get more. It beggars belief.

We needed to get a few essentials yesterday so we braved it and ventured out, but the shelves of all the needed stuff are still being stripped bare. The only consolation is that the cake shelves still seem to have a decent selection of stuff on them, so that will do me nicely We've got 8 toilet rolls left so if we can't get any more in the next couple of weeks we'll be screwed. Almost makes me wish I'd picked some up last week when I saw some on the shelf, but I was being considerate and decided to leave them for other more needy people.

My mother also told me that someone ha phoned into the local radio station and said that their local electrical retailers were selling freezers like hot cakes with one guy buying five in one go. I would like to think that was nothing to do with hoarding stuff, but if it was then the guy clearly has more cash than he has brain cells.

You would have to be forgiven for thinking that there was some kind of apocalypse going on. I think some of people have been watching far too many episodes of The Walking Dead.

Wow that's ridiculous. I guess I'm lucky to live in a more rural town where there is only 35K people.

Yesterday we did a shop after we finished live streaming out our church service (I'm now the go to live guy because I've been doing it for some time, should start charging for my time lols) but we went to aldi and things were relatively well stocked again. I think it's now a mixture of most people who would panic buy are fully stocked and then people dont want to risk getting sick to venture out to buy supplies.

We still didn't get a trolley full and just got a few days worth of stuff, mainly just lunch and dinner for yesterday. There is still definitely a shortage of goods but there is enough food to go around.

I was quite suprised to see 2 minute noodles fully stocked. In an apocalypse that'd be my go to because its sealed, cheap and easy to grab loads.

This was posted on Twitter which although meant in humour, is actually a really good suggestion  Obviously for something like that to work they would also need to shut the car parks too.

(23-Mar-2020, 12:06 AM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: This was posted on Twitter which although meant in humour, is actually a really good suggestion  Obviously for something like that to work they would also need to shut the car parks too.

That is actually a really great idea.Or even lock up all of the deep trollies and limit the shallow ones to the aged population only as they may have trouble carrying a lot.

Hoarders can only need so much, I can't see too many wanting more than 3 or 4 weeks supply of tinned rations etc.
We normally have enough in the pantry for a few weeks, if we used it in a conscious organised way, but have so far just had trouble finding stuff we want to get for meals for the following few days, not even trying to stock up on anything, and just making things stretch where we can.

At the moment, worse than personal hoarders (I think) are the ones apparently buying up as much as possible, and selling it online, or sending it overseas to family to sell / use.
We had / have an ongoing thing here (for a few years) where one demographic buys up as much of our baby powder formula as possible, and sells it on their home countrys online selling sites, they make a load of tax free profit.
Aussie mums and dads have a lot of trouble finding their childrens needs.

I suspect some Aussies are doing this hoarding thing or selling for profit, but from what I've seen in news reports of supermarket 'brawls' (yes, there's been a fracus here and there) the vast number are newer sectors of the population out to take advantage financially.
Not sure if this might also be the issue in other countries.

I'm really not convinced that shops here are being restocked overnight.
For a few days running this past week, I've gone in and the shelves are always bare.
Pasta, rice, some tinned veg, products like TP, tissues, paper towels, dettol and other such hand sanitiser, stragely haven't been able to find any beef mince either, or it's $20 a kilo (which is probably cheap by some Euro country standards).

Apparently Durum wheat season is over, used to make pasta, farmers have enough to sow next crop, so no more available to sell.
There would be reserves with manufacturers no doubt, but how much is a guess.

Let's hope things settle a bit soon, and strict rationing isn't needed.
I'd like to think most Aussies aren't too hysterical or callous to make food / necessity supply a problem.

(22-Mar-2020, 11:58 PM)bffigjam Wrote: I guess I'm lucky to live in a more rural town where there is only 35K people.

There is still definitely a shortage of goods but there is enough food to go around.

I was quite suprised to see 2 minute noodles fully stocked. In an apocalypse that'd be my go to because its sealed, cheap and easy to grab loads.

Yeah, I'm sure the cities are different, so you are lucky there, plus smaller communities tend to think more of the whole community.
Same here, plenty of survive on, just not the norm I'd say . . . those lentils might be attractive some time soon 

The noodles are a surprise, got to admit I haven't noticed that section, just going to our regular products and getting mixed results.

I think we'll be seeing some changes in day to day life after all this blows through, if it does ever fully leave us.

I REALLY like the trolley idea, have a trolley greeter who gives a basket to the mainstream shoppers, and a small trolley to the elderly / disabled etc.

(22-Mar-2020, 10:32 PM)bffigjam Wrote: Panic buying has slowed down where I am, but we supposedly have an announcement about further actions in 4.5hrs, and from what i've heard it wont be good for smaller business.

It wont be good for small bussines neither big ones. We have the announcement of a mayor airline here (Avianca) suspending all their flights. They are powerfull but they come from a bad financial row and it will hit hard.

Our local goverments are restricting the way people go for supplies, that means that only one person for family can go to buy groseries and it has to be done on foot, so you won't carry more than the necessary, thats a good move, i just hope they make it happen that way.

Well Ohio joins a handful of other US states and issued an official “stay at home” order.
We can only go out for necessities and such.
Hikes and dog walking are still ok as long as we follow safe social distancing practices. So for now I am still good to go out for a fly here and there.

Even though we are on partial lockdown in the UK, all of the selfish idiots living in this country have no consideration for others well-being. We seem to be living in a society of "me, me, me". Everyone in the UK has been urged to stay indoors and to avoid people wherever possible, and only leave their homes if they need essential items, but just look at these bunch of morons at the weekend...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51999864

People don't seem to realise the seriousness of the situation. Anyone who has their eyes closed only needs to look at Italy to see how bad things can (and will) get if countries don't get a handle on things fast, and Italy has one of the best health care systems in the world...

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-e...e-11961130

Spain appear to be on the brink of going the same way, and here in the UK we are also in grave danger of the same if the morons don't heed the advice of our government...

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-w...y-11960994

This is not just another type of flu people, this is something else and is 3 times as contagious as any normal cold or flu. They say it can be contracted through the air alone and not just through airborne droplets (i.e. not just via sneezing and coughing). Flu also only transmits 1.3 per person. COVID-19 transmits at 3 per person.

This is as real as it gets from the front line...

Yeah it’s crazy. Also what they don’t seem to realize here in the states is that as soon as we had the first case, it was already being spread around for two weeks.
I wont take the kids out anywhere. The poor things are already cooped up, we have been trying sit-up and push-up contests already just to burn their energy.
I only mean to go out and fly in the middle of nowhere when I can’t take being stuck in. But I also live in a place where there is a lot of open field farm land. So please don’t think I am not taking things seriously. I May make jokes to keep the mood light, but believe my crew is well supplied and prepared for the worst. First time as a father I have had all my weapons chambered and loaded, even the wife’s. My biggest fear is the crazies and rioting that could become of it all. My family was stuck in the ‘92 riots of L.A. Not my fondest memories.

I do agree that some people aren't taking the difference in the Wuhan virus over the annual Flu as serious as they should.  But I really believe the whole thing is being handled wrong.  The financial impacts of the shutting down of the world society will kill some countries economies and all economies will be heavily damaged, so much so it will take a long time to recover if it ever happens.  Not to mention what will happen to small businesses and those who rely on them for income.  So people will be thrown into poverty or ultimate death due to the financial impacts of shutting down the world economy.  They will survive the disease only to die from the aftermath.  I believe FAR more people will be negatively impacted by the way things are being handled now and for a much longer time, more pain and suffering and even death will occur.

Also, having everyone huddle in their homes does nothing to end the virus.  The virus will still be here and will still be a threat to those more affected.  True, dragging this out for many months instead of a few, will allow for the medical facilities to better deal with the need.  But the threat won't be gone and the total deaths may not be mitigated that much overall.  A vaccine may be available by this fall or next spring, but that won't be the end of this problem.  As soon as the virus mutates, and they all do, the vaccine won't be any good anymore.  It will take months to get a good vaccine again, and during that time the new mutated virus will run through the world like   through a goose just as it is now.  So, are we going to shutdown the whole world every time Wuhan mutates?

Those who are immune compromised already know how to protect themselves, they have to do it daily when there is no Wuhan virus.  And just because you are older, doesn't mean you are incapable of caring for yourself, or incapable of understanding how to protect yourself.  Those that are truly so old that they can't care for themselves, in most cases have those who care for them.  And of course there are those who would fall through the cracks and end up being victims of this disease, but may have not made it through a flu or cold season either.  

It's one thing to use reasonable precautions to limit or moderate the effects of the virus, but to have a world wide shutdown, bad plan....as has been said, "don't have the cure be worse than the disease"

But we are doing as we are asked, along for the ride, hanging out at home and waiting for the after effects.

(23-Mar-2020, 05:45 PM)Drone0fPrey Wrote:  First time as a father I have had all my weapons chambered and loaded, even the wife’s. My biggest fear is the crazies and rioting that could become of it all. My family was stuck in the ‘92 riots of L.A.  Not my fondest memories.

Wise to be so prepared.  It won't take much of a push to have roving hordes going door to door to find what they need or want.  There was a study done by Las Vegas Metro Police that charted out how things might go with a minor natural disaster.  It only took about 4-5 weeks for things to get real ugly.  I'm glad you are prepared!  Many are not, either by choice or because they can't.  If you think the police will be there for you in that situation, you are dreaming....