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Help with Chameleon tune plz!
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[Image: view?usp=sharing]Hey guys im new here,and I just got a Armattan Chameleon and i love it, i played around with the tune and i was wondering if someone can check it out and see if i can improve anything, i posted my blackbox log using google drive link and my pids in the image. This is my first time using blackbox so any help is greatly appreciated, thanks!

Set Up

Oomph velvets 2206/2300kv
Armattan 30amp
Dal Cyclone 5045c
gyro notch 1 & 2 off
set dterm_lowpass_type = pt1

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0jkXDR...sp=sharing


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#2
I'd like to say something, but your log file seems to be corrupted.
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(04-Sep-2017, 06:03 AM)unseen Wrote: I'd like to say something, but your log file seems to be corrupted.

I didn't check it, but maybe it's just a firmware / log viewer version mismatch?

@10svo, which betaflight version?
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(04-Sep-2017, 12:51 PM)fftunes Wrote: I didn't check it, but maybe it's just a firmware / log viewer version mismatch?

@10svo, which betaflight version?

I am running betaflight 3.1.7, just in case it is corrupted here's another link  Big Grin https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0jkXD...Xpndnd0ZDg
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#5
That's a very strange log.

When I open it up, it looks like there's nothing in it as there's no throttle value shown in the area underneath the main graph. However, if I scroll past the 2/3 mark, all of a sudden, I see data!

There's a lot of noise in your motor outputs. Are the motors hot when you land?

Also, what logging rate do you have set? I'm guessing that you're logging at the full 8KHz, which is completely unnecessary. If you are, reducing your logging rate to 1KHz will give plenty of information and much smaller log files.
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(04-Sep-2017, 04:30 PM)unseen Wrote: That's a very strange log.

When I open it up, it looks like there's nothing in it as there's no throttle value shown in the area underneath the main graph. However, if I scroll past the 2/3 mark, all of a sudden, I see data!

There's a lot of noise in your motor outputs. Are the motors hot when you land?

Also, what logging rate do you have set? I'm guessing that you're logging at the full 8KHz, which is completely unnecessary. If you are, reducing your logging rate to 1KHz will give plenty of information and much smaller log files.

Hmm I do notice the motors being hot when I land but I thought that was a normal thing, I can still touch it but not for long, should I bring D down to fix that? And I will switch to 1khz! It's my first time so I didnt know about that
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#7
WARNING: The following is from a noob!

 From what I've read, using betaflight 3.1.7 and older, notch filters can be really useful. Removing them both may be causing you trouble. Here is an interesting article about older versions of Betaflight; http://www.propwashed.com/notch-filter-practical-guide/
Flying: Talon 6S 6" 2407s 381g no bat, Martian 3, 5" 2205s sooo heavy + gopro session 5 573g AUW, Aurora 5" 2205s 280g no bat, Druckbaer 3" 1404s 172g AUW 3S 550, BQE Megapixel 2.5" 1107s 139g AUW 3S 550, BabyHawk R 2.5" 164g AUW 3S 550 (stock except microeagle, CRSF, 2.5" arms) and maybe 3 more, for now...
 




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#8
I fixed the hot motors! I lowered my D and now the motors run a lot cooler. Is there anything else I should adjust?
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(05-Sep-2017, 02:17 AM)10svo Wrote: I fixed the hot motors! I lowered my D and now the motors run a lot cooler. Is there anything else I should adjust?

If it flies well and your motors are now cool, you have a good tune!
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(05-Sep-2017, 02:17 AM)10svo Wrote: I fixed the hot motors! I lowered my D and now the motors run a lot cooler. Is there anything else I should adjust?

+1 to what unseen said.

If you wish to change how the quad flies, you'd have to be specific about what you don't like now...

Very generally speaking, if it stays cold now, maybe you could reduce the filtering (notch width for example), but i can't download the logs so i have no clue what filters are set to now - EDIT: Ignore the notch comment, just seen you wrote that gyro notches are off.
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