Posts: 9 Threads: 1 Likes Received: 4 in 3 posts Likes Given: 4 Joined: Sep 2017 Reputation: 0 Hi guys, so ijust finished build my very first quad and put a Gopro Hero2 on it, when i fly through my goggles everything seems good and smooth, but when i playback the recording from Gopro it looks like im having a seizure when flying it, the quad seems do too much overcorrecting and doesn't look smooth at all. Can you guys help me with the tuning? i'll put the link to my video here Thank you • Posts: 2,286 Threads: 38 Likes Received: 1,527 in 995 posts Likes Given: 1,881 Joined: Apr 2016 Reputation: 72 You may have a little bit of bounce-back on some moves that might need a little adjustment to your tune, but it's impossible to give you any real advice based on a video. You need to give us more information to get useful advice. I've copied the first essential bit of information from your YouTube post - the configuration: Gear Used: Oddette F-X220 HQ prop 5x4.3x3 V1s Racerstar BR2205S 1300 KV DYS F4 Flight Controller DYS XSD 20A ESC Sony HS1177 Foxeer 200mw FRsky XM+ FRsky QX7 Eachine EV800 Emax Pagoda 2 (VTX-VRX) Gopro Hero 2 (I suspect an error when you say your motors are 1300kv, 2300kv is more likely.) Tell us which firmware you are running and post a CLI dump from the flight controller (in [ code ] tags). Record and post a black box log and post that log together with a video from the flight that the log relates to. The video doesn't look that bad but I suspect you might have some vibration issues. Some of the jerkyness could also be purely down to your technique, but it's impossible to say without being able to see how you move the sticks in a black box log. Posts: 9 Threads: 1 Likes Received: 4 in 3 posts Likes Given: 4 Joined: Sep 2017 Reputation: 0 (09-Sep-2017, 11:10 AM)unseen Wrote: You may have a little bit of bounce-back on some moves that might need a little adjustment to your tune, but it's impossible to give you any real advice based on a video. You need to give us more information to get useful advice. I've copied the first essential bit of information from your YouTube post - the configuration: Gear Used: Oddette F-X220 HQ prop 5x4.3x3 V1s Racerstar BR2205S 1300 KV DYS F4 Flight Controller DYS XSD 20A ESC Sony HS1177 Foxeer 200mw FRsky XM+ FRsky QX7 Eachine EV800 Emax Pagoda 2 (VTX-VRX) Gopro Hero 2 (I suspect an error when you say your motors are 1300kv, 2300kv is more likely.) Tell us which firmware you are running and post a CLI dump from the flight controller (in [ code ] tags). Record and post a black box log and post that log together with a video from the flight that the log relates to. The video doesn't look that bad but I suspect you might have some vibration issues. Some of the jerkyness could also be purely down to your technique, but it's impossible to say without being able to see how you move the sticks in a black box log. Hi man, currently i'm using Betaflight 1.6 unfortunately i didn't record it on the blackbox because i'm really new to this stuff and still don't know what is blackbox log and how to use it, but i already meet some fellow drone pilot in my local area and he retune my PID on the Betaflight configurator, but its already dark in here (Indonesia), so i'll just test it tomorrow. this is my first time flying the real quad after 2 months training on simulator, still need more time to train to smoothing the control, thank you for the advice, i'll try to record my flight on black box tomorrow • Posts: 2,286 Threads: 38 Likes Received: 1,527 in 995 posts Likes Given: 1,881 Joined: Apr 2016 Reputation: 72 09-Sep-2017, 04:52 PM (This post was last modified: 09-Sep-2017, 04:58 PM by unseen.) (09-Sep-2017, 03:30 PM)Daniel45 Wrote: Hi man, currently i'm using Betaflight 1.6 unfortunately i didn't record it on the blackbox because i'm really new to this stuff and still don't know what is blackbox log and how to use it, but i already meet some fellow drone pilot in my local area and he retune my PID on the Betaflight configurator, but its already dark in here (Indonesia), so i'll just test it tomorrow. this is my first time flying the real quad after 2 months training on simulator, still need more time to train to smoothing the control, thank you for the advice, i'll try to record my flight on black box tomorrow Sorry, but there is no such thing as Betaflight 1.6! There are two versions you need to look at. One is the version of the flight controller firmware - you can get that by going to the CLI tab on the configurator and typing 'version'. The other is the version of the configurator itself which is displayed in the top left hand side of the configurator under the Betaflight logo. I must congratulate you on being able to fly that well after only learning on a simulator. Well done and welcome to the forum! • Posts: 1,149 Threads: 50 Likes Received: 704 in 450 posts Likes Given: 1,189 Joined: Sep 2016 Reputation: 30 Only watched it on phone, the most apparent to me was propwash mostly when falling backwards... now changing PIDs and filters might improve that a little bit, but over time you'll also learn to "fly around it". With more experience it will also get smoother. But as unseen said, it's A) difficult to judge just from video, and B) very good flying for a beginner. Looking forward to more, i think "Indonesia's got talent" Posts: 9 Threads: 1 Likes Received: 4 in 3 posts Likes Given: 4 Joined: Sep 2017 Reputation: 0 10-Sep-2017, 04:20 PM (This post was last modified: 10-Sep-2017, 04:20 PM by Daniel45.) • Posts: 9 Threads: 1 Likes Received: 4 in 3 posts Likes Given: 4 Joined: Sep 2017 Reputation: 0 10-Sep-2017, 04:25 PM (This post was last modified: 10-Sep-2017, 05:32 PM by Daniel45.) So guys, i just finished fly the quad today with some new tuning and i turn the Airmode & Anti-gravity on, i also attach the CLI dump here dump Code: dump # version # Betaflight / OMNIBUSF4 3.1.6 Feb 21 2017 / 14:33:46 (1fd502c) # name name DANIEL # resources resource BEEPER 1 B04 resource MOTOR 1 B00 resource MOTOR 2 B01 resource MOTOR 3 A03 resource MOTOR 4 A02 resource MOTOR 5 A01 resource MOTOR 6 A08 resource MOTOR 7 NONE resource MOTOR 8 NONE resource MOTOR 9 NONE resource MOTOR 10 NONE resource MOTOR 11 NONE resource MOTOR 12 NONE resource SERVO 1 NONE resource SERVO 2 NONE resource SERVO 3 NONE resource SERVO 4 NONE resource SERVO 5 NONE resource SERVO 6 NONE resource SERVO 7 NONE resource SERVO 8 NONE resource PPM 1 B14 resource PWM 1 B14 resource PWM 2 B15 resource PWM 3 C06 resource PWM 4 C07 resource PWM 5 C08 resource PWM 6 C09 resource PWM 7 NONE resource PWM 8 NONE resource LED_STRIP 1 A01 resource SERIAL_TX 1 A09 resource SERIAL_TX 2 NONE resource SERIAL_TX 3 B10 resource SERIAL_TX 4 NONE resource SERIAL_TX 5 NONE resource SERIAL_TX 6 C06 resource SERIAL_TX 7 NONE resource SERIAL_TX 8 NONE resource SERIAL_TX 9 NONE resource SERIAL_TX 10 NONE resource SERIAL_TX 11 NONE resource SERIAL_TX 12 NONE resource SERIAL_RX 1 A10 resource SERIAL_RX 2 NONE resource SERIAL_RX 3 B11 resource SERIAL_RX 4 NONE resource SERIAL_RX 5 NONE resource SERIAL_RX 6 C07 resource SERIAL_RX 7 NONE resource SERIAL_RX 8 NONE resource SERIAL_RX 9 NONE resource SERIAL_RX 10 NONE resource SERIAL_RX 11 NONE resource SERIAL_RX 12 NONE # mixer mixer QUADX mmix reset # servo servo 0 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1 servo 1 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1 servo 2 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1 servo 3 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1 servo 4 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1 servo 5 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1 servo 6 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1 servo 7 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1 # servo mix smix reset # feature feature -RX_PPM feature -VBAT feature -INFLIGHT_ACC_CAL feature -RX_SERIAL feature -MOTOR_STOP feature -SERVO_TILT feature -SOFTSERIAL feature -GPS feature -FAILSAFE feature -SONAR feature -TELEMETRY feature -CURRENT_METER feature -3D feature -RX_PARALLEL_PWM feature -RX_MSP feature -RSSI_ADC feature -LED_STRIP feature -DISPLAY feature -OSD feature -BLACKBOX feature -CHANNEL_FORWARDING feature -TRANSPONDER feature -AIRMODE feature -SDCARD feature -VTX feature -RX_SPI feature -SOFTSPI feature -ESC_SENSOR feature VBAT feature RX_SERIAL feature FAILSAFE feature CURRENT_METER feature OSD feature AIRMODE # beeper beeper GYRO_CALIBRATED beeper RX_LOST beeper RX_LOST_LANDING beeper DISARMING beeper ARMING beeper ARMING_GPS_FIX beeper BAT_CRIT_LOW beeper BAT_LOW beeper GPS_STATUS beeper RX_SET beeper ACC_CALIBRATION beeper ACC_CALIBRATION_FAIL beeper READY_BEEP beeper MULTI_BEEPS beeper DISARM_REPEAT beeper ARMED beeper SYSTEM_INIT beeper ON_USB # map map AETR1234 # serial serial 20 1 115200 57600 0 115200 serial 0 64 115200 57600 0 115200 serial 2 0 115200 57600 0 115200 serial 5 0 115200 57600 0 115200 # led led 0 6,8::C:6 led 1 7,8::C:6 led 2 0,0::C:0 led 3 0,0::C:0 led 4 0,0::C:0 led 5 0,0::C:0 led 6 0,0::C:0 led 7 0,0::C:0 led 8 0,0::C:0 led 9 0,0::C:0 led 10 0,0::C:0 led 11 0,0::C:0 led 12 0,0::C:0 led 13 0,0::C:0 led 14 0,0::C:0 led 15 0,0::C:0 led 16 0,0::C:0 led 17 0,0::C:0 led 18 0,0::C:0 led 19 0,0::C:0 led 20 0,0::C:0 led 21 0,0::C:0 led 22 0,0::C:0 led 23 0,0::C:0 led 24 0,0::C:0 led 25 0,0::C:0 led 26 0,0::C:0 led 27 0,0::C:0 led 28 0,0::C:0 led 29 0,0::C:0 led 30 0,0::C:0 led 31 0,0::C:0 # color color 0 0,0,0 color 1 0,255,255 color 2 0,0,255 color 3 30,0,255 color 4 60,0,255 color 5 90,0,255 color 6 120,0,255 color 7 150,0,255 color 8 180,0,255 color 9 210,0,255 color 10 240,0,255 color 11 270,0,255 color 12 300,0,255 color 13 330,0,255 color 14 0,0,0 color 15 0,0,0 # mode_color mode_color 0 0 1 mode_color 0 1 11 mode_color 0 2 2 mode_color 0 3 13 mode_color 0 4 10 mode_color 0 5 3 mode_color 1 0 5 mode_color 1 1 11 mode_color 1 2 3 mode_color 1 3 13 mode_color 1 4 10 mode_color 1 5 3 mode_color 2 0 10 mode_color 2 1 11 mode_color 2 2 4 mode_color 2 3 13 mode_color 2 4 10 mode_color 2 5 3 mode_color 3 0 8 mode_color 3 1 11 mode_color 3 2 4 mode_color 3 3 13 mode_color 3 4 10 mode_color 3 5 3 mode_color 4 0 7 mode_color 4 1 11 mode_color 4 2 3 mode_color 4 3 13 mode_color 4 4 10 mode_color 4 5 3 mode_color 5 0 9 mode_color 5 1 11 mode_color 5 2 2 mode_color 5 3 13 mode_color 5 4 10 mode_color 5 5 3 mode_color 6 0 6 mode_color 6 1 10 mode_color 6 2 1 mode_color 6 3 0 mode_color 6 4 0 mode_color 6 5 2 mode_color 6 6 3 mode_color 6 7 6 mode_color 6 8 0 mode_color 6 9 0 mode_color 6 10 0 mode_color 7 0 3 # aux aux 0 0 0 1525 2100 aux 1 1 1 900 1300 aux 2 2 1 1300 1700 aux 3 12 2 1700 2100 aux 4 0 0 900 900 aux 5 0 0 900 900 aux 6 0 0 900 900 aux 7 0 0 900 900 aux 8 0 0 900 900 aux 9 0 0 900 900 aux 10 0 0 900 900 aux 11 0 0 900 900 aux 12 0 0 900 900 aux 13 0 0 900 900 aux 14 0 0 900 900 aux 15 0 0 900 900 aux 16 0 0 900 900 aux 17 0 0 900 900 aux 18 0 0 900 900 aux 19 0 0 900 900 # adjrange adjrange 0 0 0 900 900 0 0 adjrange 1 0 0 900 900 0 0 adjrange 2 0 0 900 900 0 0 adjrange 3 0 0 900 900 0 0 adjrange 4 0 0 900 900 0 0 adjrange 5 0 0 900 900 0 0 adjrange 6 0 0 900 900 0 0 adjrange 7 0 0 900 900 0 0 adjrange 8 0 0 900 900 0 0 adjrange 9 0 0 900 900 0 0 adjrange 10 0 0 900 900 0 0 adjrange 11 0 0 900 900 0 0 adjrange 12 0 0 900 900 0 0 adjrange 13 0 0 900 900 0 0 adjrange 14 0 0 900 900 0 0 # rxrange rxrange 0 1000 2000 rxrange 1 1000 2000 rxrange 2 1000 2000 rxrange 3 1000 2000 # rxfail rxfail 0 a rxfail 1 a rxfail 2 a rxfail 3 a rxfail 4 h rxfail 5 h rxfail 6 h rxfail 7 h rxfail 8 h rxfail 9 h rxfail 10 h rxfail 11 h rxfail 12 h rxfail 13 h rxfail 14 h rxfail 15 h rxfail 16 h rxfail 17 h # master set task_statistics = ON set mid_rc = 1500 set min_check = 1020 set max_check = 1900 set rssi_channel = 0 set rssi_scale = 30 set rc_interp = AUTO set rc_interp_ch = RP set rc_interp_int = 19 set rssi_ppm_invert = OFF set input_filtering_mode = OFF set fpv_mix_degrees = 0 set max_aux_channels = 14 set debug_mode = NONE set min_throttle = 1060 set max_throttle = 2000 set min_command = 1000 set digital_idle_percent = 6.000 set 3d_deadband_low = 1406 set 3d_deadband_high = 1514 set 3d_neutral = 1460 set 3d_deadband_throttle = 0 set use_unsynced_pwm = OFF set motor_pwm_protocol = DSHOT600 set motor_pwm_rate = 480 set disarm_kill_switch = ON set gyro_cal_on_first_arm = OFF set auto_disarm_delay = 5 set small_angle = 25 set fixedwing_althold_dir = 1 set reboot_character = 82 set serial_update_rate_hz = 100 set gps_provider = NMEA set gps_sbas_mode = AUTO set gps_auto_config = ON set gps_auto_baud = OFF set gps_wp_radius = 200 set nav_controls_heading = ON set nav_speed_min = 100 set nav_speed_max = 300 set nav_slew_rate = 30 set beeper_inversion = ON set beeper_od = OFF set serialrx_provider = SBUS set serialrx_halfduplex = OFF set sbus_inversion = ON set spektrum_sat_bind = 0 set spektrum_sat_bind_autorst = 1 set tlm_switch = OFF set tlm_inversion = ON set sport_halfduplex = ON set frsky_default_lat = 0.000 set frsky_default_long = 0.000 set frsky_gps_format = 0 set frsky_unit = IMPERIAL set frsky_vfas_precision = 0 set frsky_vfas_cell_voltage = OFF set hott_alarm_int = 5 set pid_in_tlm = OFF set ibus_report_cell_voltage = OFF set bat_capacity = 0 set vbat_scale = 110 set vbat_max_cell_voltage = 43 set vbat_min_cell_voltage = 33 set vbat_warning_cell_voltage = 35 set vbat_hysteresis = 1 set ibat_scale = 290 set ibat_offset = 20 set mwii_ibat_output = OFF set current_meter_type = ADC set battery_meter_type = ADC set bat_detect_thresh = 55 set use_vbat_alerts = ON set use_cbat_alerts = OFF set cbat_alert_percent = 10 set align_gyro = DEFAULT set align_acc = DEFAULT set align_mag = DEFAULT set align_board_roll = 0 set align_board_pitch = 0 set align_board_yaw = 0 set gyro_lpf = OFF set gyro_sync_denom = 1 set gyro_isr_update = OFF set gyro_use_32khz = OFF set gyro_lowpass_type = PT1 set gyro_lowpass = 90 set gyro_notch1_hz = 0 set gyro_notch1_cut = 300 set gyro_notch2_hz = 200 set gyro_notch2_cut = 100 set moron_threshold = 48 set imu_dcm_kp = 2500 set imu_dcm_ki = 0 set alt_hold_deadband = 40 set alt_hold_fast_change = ON set deadband = 0 set yaw_deadband = 0 set thr_corr_value = 0 set thr_corr_angle = 800 set yaw_control_direction = 1 set yaw_motor_direction = -1 set servo_center_pulse = 1500 set tri_unarmed_servo = ON set servo_lowpass_hz = 400 set servo_lowpass = OFF set servo_pwm_rate = 50 set gimbal_mode = NORMAL set channel_forwarding_start = 4 set airmode_start_throttle = 1350 set failsafe_delay = 10 set failsafe_off_delay = 10 set failsafe_throttle = 1000 set failsafe_kill_switch = OFF set failsafe_throttle_low_delay = 100 set failsafe_procedure = DROP set rx_min_usec = 885 set rx_max_usec = 2115 set acc_hardware = NONE set acc_lpf_hz = 10 set accxy_deadband = 40 set accz_deadband = 40 set acc_unarmedcal = ON set acc_trim_pitch = 0 set acc_trim_roll = 0 set baro_tab_size = 21 set baro_noise_lpf = 0.600 set baro_cf_vel = 0.985 set baro_cf_alt = 0.965 set baro_hardware = NONE set mag_hardware = NONE set mag_declination = 0 set pid_process_denom = 1 set blackbox_rate_num = 1 set blackbox_rate_denom = 1 set blackbox_device = SPIFLASH set blackbox_on_motor_test = OFF set magzero_x = 0 set magzero_y = 0 set magzero_z = 0 set ledstrip_visual_beeper = OFF set osd_units = METRIC set osd_rssi_alarm = 20 set osd_cap_alarm = 1300 set osd_time_alarm = 3 set osd_alt_alarm = 100 set osd_vbat_pos = 2466 set osd_rssi_pos = 22 set osd_flytimer_pos = 2487 set osd_ontimer_pos = 374 set osd_flymode_pos = 33 set osd_throttle_pos = 129 set osd_vtx_channel_pos = 200 set osd_crosshairs = 0 set osd_horizon_pos = 200 set osd_current_pos = 2477 set osd_mah_drawn_pos = 111 set osd_craft_name_pos = 459 set osd_gps_speed_pos = 66 set osd_gps_sats_pos = 386 set osd_altitude_pos = 161 set osd_pid_roll_pos = 322 set osd_pid_pitch_pos = 354 set osd_pid_yaw_pos = 386 set osd_power_pos = 47 set osd_pidrate_profile_pos = 418 set osd_battery_warning_pos = 200 set vcd_video_system = 0 set vcd_h_offset = 0 set vcd_v_offset = 0 set displayport_msp_col_adjust = 0 set displayport_msp_row_adjust = 0 set displayport_max7456_col_adjust = 0 set displayport_max7456_row_adjust = 0 # profile profile 0 set gps_pos_p = 15 set gps_pos_i = 0 set gps_pos_d = 0 set gps_posr_p = 34 set gps_posr_i = 14 set gps_posr_d = 53 set gps_nav_p = 25 set gps_nav_i = 33 set gps_nav_d = 83 set yaw_p_limit = 500 set pidsum_limit = 0.500 set d_lowpass_type = PT1 set d_lowpass = 100 set d_notch_hz = 260 set d_notch_cut = 160 set vbat_pid_gain = OFF set pid_at_min_throttle = ON set anti_gravity_thresh = 350 set anti_gravity_gain = 1.000 set setpoint_relax_ratio = 20 set d_setpoint_weight = 100 set yaw_accel_limit = 10.000 set accel_limit = 0.000 set iterm_windup = 50 set yaw_lowpass = 0 set p_pitch = 65 set i_pitch = 50 set d_pitch = 25 set p_roll = 55 set i_roll = 45 set d_roll = 25 set p_yaw = 65 set i_yaw = 50 set d_yaw = 25 set p_alt = 50 set i_alt = 0 set d_alt = 0 set p_level = 50 set i_level = 50 set d_level = 100 set p_vel = 55 set i_vel = 55 set d_vel = 75 set level_sensitivity = 55 set level_limit = 55 rateprofile 0 # rateprofile rateprofile 0 set rc_rate = 140 set rc_rate_yaw = 112 set rc_expo = 30 set rc_yaw_expo = 10 set thr_mid = 50 set thr_expo = 0 set roll_srate = 72 set pitch_srate = 70 set yaw_srate = 70 set tpa_rate = 10 set tpa_breakpoint = 1650 #
and here is my flight footage from Gopro • Posts: 1,149 Threads: 50 Likes Received: 704 in 450 posts Likes Given: 1,189 Joined: Sep 2016 Reputation: 30 10-Sep-2017, 05:13 PM (This post was last modified: 10-Sep-2017, 05:24 PM by fftunes.) Hint, use [code ] tags instead of [quote ], then we can scroll through and it doesn't take so much space. PS: Nice video edit. Do you feel comfortable with the rates? I use almost same rc_rates but no expo. • Posts: 9 Threads: 1 Likes Received: 4 in 3 posts Likes Given: 4 Joined: Sep 2017 Reputation: 0 (10-Sep-2017, 05:13 PM)fftunes Wrote: Hint, use [code ] tags instead of Quote:, then we can scroll through and it doesn't take so much space. PS: Nice video edit. Do you feel comfortable with the rates? I use almost same rc_rates but no expo. thanks for the info, i've edit the post the rates feels really nice than before, also after switching from HQ props to DAL Cyclone the quad feel more locked in and faster, but after 3 days flying i start to feel like the quad was quite slow, especially when climbing, do you think i need to replace the motors with higher KV? • Posts: 1,149 Threads: 50 Likes Received: 704 in 450 posts Likes Given: 1,189 Joined: Sep 2016 Reputation: 30 Did you change props after adjusting PID? Maybe PID are a bit high for these props now. You could try adding a bit more TPA, sometimes i feel this helps a bit reaching better rpm. But in detail only a log file could tell about noise, filter settings etc. Posts: 9 Threads: 1 Likes Received: 4 in 3 posts Likes Given: 4 Joined: Sep 2017 Reputation: 0 (10-Sep-2017, 07:30 PM)fftunes Wrote: Did you change props after adjusting PID? Maybe PID are a bit high for these props now. You could try adding a bit more TPA, sometimes i feel this helps a bit reaching better rpm. But in detail only a log file could tell about noise, filter settings etc. yes i did, i'll try to do blackbox logging on next flight • |