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Heavy Lifters

.txt   BTFL_cli_20180120_184244.txt (Size: 13.08 KB / Downloads: 150)

I have attached a CLI TXT file.

I hope it works.

KK
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OK, so I found your flight controller at Hobbyking.

It seems that it does not have a built in CP2102 chip but instead, they provide one on an external board which you use to connect to either the "OSD Setup" or "F3 Setup" ports at the side of the board.

The fact that both ports are marked "RXD1" and "TXD1" tells me that the flight controller and the OSD setup ports are both connected to UART1 as I suspected.

This means that while connecting to either of these ports, you cannot provide 5V power to the board at the same time. Otherwise both the OSD and the flight controller will be active and your computer won't be able to talk to the flight controller properly.

So, if you're plugging in your 5V supply so that you can check that your receiver is working properly, the OSD will also be powered up and things won't work properly.

The Hobbyking manual for this board doesn't mention anything about this, unfortunately.
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(20-Jan-2018, 11:43 AM)unseen Wrote: Not quite.

The opening and closing tags look like this: (without the spaces)

[ code ]
[ /code ]

....


Please ingore Tom's advice about Zadig.

Blush
Sorry gents, took up almost 1 whole page of the thread, with no help at all!
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(20-Jan-2018, 04:42 PM)Tom BD Bad Wrote: Blush
Sorry gents, took up almost 1 whole page of the thread, with no help at all!

Even suggestions that don't fix the problem help to narrow down the possibilities! Wink
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(20-Jan-2018, 01:43 PM)Keyboard Kid Wrote: Hi Unseen,

I am  not sure about that driver. My DM just says "Silicon Labs CP210x USB to UART bridge (Com5)". I did try to instal the CP2102 but it coming up as shown at the start of this line of text. I had real trouble finding and installing that CP2102.

...

With regards to using the USB connection with the flight battery plugged in, the USB worked perfectly normally with or without the flight battery plugged in.

I must say I am terribly suspicious of that UART 1 and UART 3 thing. The manual did say that the SP usually uses UART3.

I must also say that i feel completely out of my depth with all of this stuff and that you were right when you said that I need hands on help.

Don't despair!

The driver you have installed is the correct one.

There are only three free UARTs on the board. UART3 is for a serial receiver, UART2 is for a GPS or similar and UART1 is for the configurator to talk to the flight controller. The OSD shares UART1 with the flight controller. In normal operation, this works fine because the OSD is only powered when the whole board is powered via its 5V input.

Many of the boards that used this design provided a switch or jumper to break the OSD's UART connection to the flight controller to avoid the OSD and the configurator fighting with each other.  

Give what I suggested a try. Connect your adapter to the F3 Setup port and connect with the configurator. See if you can go into the CLI and then type exit (which will reboot the FC). If you can still talk to flight controller, then your OSD is interfering with the boot process somehow.

If that's the case, then there are ways around it. If you're never going to use the OSD and you have a microscope, you can always locate the power pins on the OSD's microprocessor and cut the tracks leading to those pins.
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(20-Jan-2018, 01:49 PM)unseen Wrote: OK, so I found your flight controller at Hobbyking.

It seems that it does not have a built in CP2102 chip but instead, they provide one on an external board which you use to connect to either the "OSD Setup" or "F3 Setup" ports at the side of the board.

The fact that both ports are marked "RXD1" and "TXD1" tells me that the flight controller and the OSD setup ports are both connected to UART1 as I suspected.

This means that while connecting to either of these ports, you cannot provide 5V power to the board at the same time. Otherwise both the OSD and the flight controller will be active and your computer won't be able to talk to the flight controller properly.

So, if you're plugging in your 5V supply so that you can check that your receiver is working properly, the OSD will also be powered up and things won't work properly.

The Hobbyking manual for this board doesn't mention anything about this, unfortunately.

Hi Unseen, first off I would like to thank you blokes (all of you) for all the effort you have put in helping me with this endless sting of problems I have encountered. I really do appreciate your help and I mean that.

Now back to the problem at hand, the Hobbyking manual does not mention much of anything. I did not realise that there was a real SP racer and a copy SP Racer until I downloaded the Cleanflight SP manual and read the warning there about the copies. I then went looking for the copy manual which was very difficult to find.

Still in spite of all of this i did successfully fly the copy SP until I made that mistake with switching on UART3 after which I have never had any success at all.

Unseen one thing that I am very confused about is the fact that I have always had to have had the flight battery plugged in to test everything especially the RX tab and the motor test tab and I had never had any trouble until I made that mistake with UART 3. The RX does not get any power until the flight battery is plugged in.

Re your suggestion on cutting tracks I think a more practical solution is a new FC and I am leaning towards the DJI Naza V2 at the moment.

Does anyone have a comment to make on that observation?

Thanks once again everybody. Big Grin 

KK
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Howdy Boys,

I have corrected the spelling mistake in my previous post (that changed to thanks) so it makes sense now.

Secondly as of tonight Quad operations are suspended for an indefinite period as the big hip replacement gig begins at 6:00am tomorrow morning. Cry 
So all the best and I will see if I can dream up some more of my olden day stories to keep you all entertained over the coming weeks.

That is as soon as those cute little nurses let me get my hands on my laptop.

Stay tuned!

KK
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Good luck with the operation!

I'm sure you'll be back on your feet in no time.
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Good luck sir, hope all goes well. Try to keep your hands off the nurses haha
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(23-Jan-2018, 07:55 PM)unseen Wrote: Good luck with the operation!

I'm sure you'll be back on your feet in no time.

Hi Unseen,

I'm bbbaaaccckkk!

That was a very smooth event.

Arrived at hospital at 6:00am, operated on 8:30 am and back in the ward eating a sandwich at 11:30am with very little pain or discomfort.

Walking on an armpit frame at 6:00pm that day (Day Zero). walking on crutches Day 1 (morning), walking on one crutch Day 1 afternoon and practicing walking with no crutches Day one evening.

So Unseen if you are facing hip replacements then put any worries you may have right out of your mind.

It is a very smooth operation.

Thanks everyone for your well wishes Big Grin .

KK

PS, as expected the nurses are cute (the girl ones that is) and yes I am behaving.
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Excellent news!

Surgery doesn't hold any terrors for me these days. Anaesthesia is much more advanced and doesn't leave you feeling like you've been run over by a truck for several days afterwards.

Sooner or later I'll need both of my hips replacing as the radiation treatment I received to deal with my cancer has destroyed the blood supply to my hip joints. They already hurt like hell some days so if I'm still cancer free at the five year mark, I'll probably be able to start asking about some nice titanium replacements. Just another two years to go...

Great to hear that you're recovering at the speed of a 20 year old!
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Really glad for you that it went so smoothly KK, hopefully getting IT sorted will go just as easily from here on out...
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I'm glad to here everything went so well, happy to have you back already. Ah, the miracle of modern science. It's advancing almost as quickly as Betaflight!!
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(25-Jan-2018, 02:50 PM)RENOV8R Wrote: I'm glad to here everything went so well, happy to have you back already.  Ah, the miracle of modern science.  It's advancing almost as quickly as Betaflight!!

Thanks lads.

Now all I have to do is get through another two weeks of being pampered by those nurses and it will be all back to normal.

I know you all miss me wailing about my latest catastrophe.   Rolleyes Rolleyes 

Chins up, those two weeks will go as quick as a wink.

KK

PS, Unseen none of that speed of recovery was my idea. It was those cute little physio nurses that pushed me along. I would have still been lounging back in bed sipping coffee, left to my own devices. Amazing what a pretty face can achieve.
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I used to distribute uniforms for the NHS and I noticed, most physios are pretty young things that inspire you to show just how fit and healthy you are!
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