Posts: 21,248 Threads: 587 Likes Received: 8,962 in 6,632 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 787 22-Mar-2019, 12:35 AM (This post was last modified: 18-May-2019, 07:57 PM by SnowLeopardFPV. Edit Reason: Added links to AndyRC's and Nick Burns' videos. ) No more details yet other than what is on FrSky's own website at the following link:- https://www.frsky-rc.com/frsky-new-upgra...ro-release Quote:FrSky new upgraded compact transmitters Taranis X-Lite S and Pro release!
March 19, 2019
With the growing acclaim of the new compact X-Lite form factor, FrSky is introducing this upgraded version. The Pro and S versions combine all the benefits of the preceding design with the features of our full-sized radios, along with the newly developed ACCESS (Advanced Communication Control, Elevated Spread Spectrum) protocol.
New for the PRO version is a high-quality, all-metal CNC hall sensor gimbal. Checking the airwaves for RF noise is now possible with the new power meter and spectrum analysis function added to the OpenTX firmware. Both versions feature the addition of an improved wireless trainer function which makes them compatible with the FrSky Free Link App. The best thing about the Pro and S models is that pilots can now expect even lower latency and enhanced performance due to our new ACCESS transmission protocol. With the integrated 6-axis sensor unit, pilots can use the radio as a motion-sensing controller to control the inputs of a model during flight or use it to point a camera in the desired direction. Like all of our transmitters, all of the beloved features from previous Taranis are included such as full haptic feedback and voice alerts, as well as telemetry and 24 channels and an additional 2 momentary buttons are installed.
![[Image: X-Lite-Pro-%E6%9C%80%E7%BB%88-2-2.jpg]](https://www.frsky-rc.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/X-Lite-Pro-%E6%9C%80%E7%BB%88-2-2.jpg) ![[Image: X-Lite-Pro-3.jpg]](https://www.frsky-rc.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/X-Lite-Pro-3.jpg)
SPECIFICATIONS
- Number of channels: 24 channels
- Weight: 308g/ 376g (with battery)
- Operating Voltage Range: 6.0 ~ 8.4V
- Operating Current: [email protected]
- Operating Temperature: -20°C ~ 60°C (-4°F ~ 140°F)
- Backlight LCD resolution : 128*64
- Model memories: 60 models (expandable by micro TF card)
- Micro USB interface: supports 2S Li-battery balancing charge
FEATURES
- Ergonomic and compact design
- M12 Lite hall sensor gimbals (S)
- MC12 Lite all-metal CNC digital hall sensor gimbal (Pro)
- Upgraded RF module with installed ACCESS protocol
✧ More sensitive and lower latency (down to 12ms)
✧ High-speed digital interface of internal and external modules (Baud rate: 450K)
✧ Longer range with 40% enhanced performance
✧ Accurate SWR indicator
✧ Supports power meter function
✧ Supports spectrum analyzer function
- Wireless function
✧ Higher-speed training system with a lower latency
✧ Compatible with FrSky Free Link App
- Supports wired training function
- High-efficiency quick-charge system
✧ Supports 2S Li-Battery balancing charge
- Supports motion sensing control
✧ Integrated with 6-axis sensor unit
- Haptic vibration alerts and voice speech outputs
Taranis X-Lite S PRICE (TAX EXCLUDED): US$ 149.99
MORE DETAILS: https://www.frsky-rc.com/product/taranis-x-lite-s/
Taranis X-Lite Pro PRICE (TAX EXCLUDED): US$ 199.99
MORE DETAILS: https://www.frsky-rc.com/product/taranis-x-lite-pro/ Posts: 12,099 Threads: 125 Likes Received: 3,739 in 2,836 posts Likes Given: 99 Joined: Feb 2017 Reputation: 388 22-Mar-2019, 01:19 AM (This post was last modified: 22-Mar-2019, 01:21 AM by voodoo614.) Do you know if new receiver is needed to access ACCESS protocol? EDIT : Found the answer. Frsky will roll out new firmware. http://www.multirotorguide.com/news/frsk...-protocol/ ![[-]](https://intofpv.com/images/collapse.png) • Posts: 21,248 Threads: 587 Likes Received: 8,962 in 6,632 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 787 (22-Mar-2019, 01:19 AM)voodoo614 Wrote: Do you know if new receiver is needed to access ACCESS protocol? No, you just need to load ACCESS compatible firmware onto receivers that have ACCESS firmware written for them. • Posts: 12,099 Threads: 125 Likes Received: 3,739 in 2,836 posts Likes Given: 99 Joined: Feb 2017 Reputation: 388 (22-Mar-2019, 01:22 AM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote: No, you just need to load ACCESS compatible firmware onto receivers that have ACCESS firmware written for them. You know what this means. More confusion. I can see it now. What firmware are you using? No, no, when you have ACCESS radio you need ACCESS firmware. FLEX will not work with ACCESS. Is it ACCESS EU or FCC? I think I will leave all the ACCESS questions to you since you brought it up. • Posts: 21,248 Threads: 587 Likes Received: 8,962 in 6,632 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 787 (22-Mar-2019, 02:08 AM)voodoo614 Wrote: You know what this means. More confusion. I can see it now. What firmware are you using? No, no, when you have ACCESS radio you need ACCESS firmware. FLEX will not work with ACCESS. Is it ACCESS EU or FCC? I think I will leave all the ACCESS questions to you since you brought it up.   I'll tell you what, we can split the work. You take the R9 support desk seat and I can take the ACCESS support desk seat  Did you manage work out how many permutations there might be yet?  What does worry me a bit is this... Quote:Q: Does ACCESS protocol support rollbacking to the ACCST?
A: No, this is the one-way update.  I guess this means the firmware on the internal XJT module. So if you get it wrong or realise you made a mistake in moving to ACCESS, you're up the creek without a paddle  • Posts: 12,099 Threads: 125 Likes Received: 3,739 in 2,836 posts Likes Given: 99 Joined: Feb 2017 Reputation: 388 (22-Mar-2019, 03:04 AM)SnowLeopardFPV Wrote:
I'll tell you what, we can split the work. You take the R9 support desk seat and I can take the ACCESS support desk seat
Did you manage work out how many permutations there might be yet?
What does worry me a bit is this...
I guess this means the firmware on the internal XJT module. So if you get it wrong or realise you made a mistake in moving to ACCESS, you're up the creek without a paddle So technically it is not permutation, because permutation means order is important. It is easier than permutation/combination calculation. Receiver: EU FCC Flex EU Flex FCC ACCESS EU ACCESS FCC IXJT EU FCC FLEX ACCESS EU ACCESS FCC So there is (I am assuming) 6 firmwares for receiver and 5 for IXJT. For each IXJT firmware, there is 6 choices of receiver firmware. Since there is 5 IXJT firmwares, the calculation is just 5 x 6 = 30 different combinations. I think the ACCESS firmware is not backward compatible with ACCST, but if you want to run ACCST, I pretty sure you can flash an ACCST compatible firmware. • Posts: 536 Threads: 19 Likes Received: 261 in 173 posts Likes Given: 168 Joined: Sep 2018 Reputation: 10 (22-Mar-2019, 04:40 AM)voodoo614 Wrote: So technically it is not permutation, because permutation means order is important. It is easier than permutation/combination calculation.
Receiver:
EU
FCC
Flex EU
Flex FCC
ACCESS EU
ACCESS FCC
IXJT
EU
FCC
FLEX
ACCESS EU
ACCESS FCC
So there is (I am assuming) 6 firmwares for receiver and 5 for IXJT. For each IXJT firmware, there is 6 choices of receiver firmware. Since there is 5 IXJT firmwares, the calculation is just 5 x 6 = 30 different combinations.
I think the ACCESS firmware is not backward compatible with ACCST, but if you want to run ACCST, I pretty sure you can flash an ACCST compatible firmware. Flex firmware on the receiver doesn't have an EU or FCC option? there is just flex firmware what i know. I have the X-lite and what i want the most is charging via USB. The Pro version looks really nice!! • Posts: 21,248 Threads: 587 Likes Received: 8,962 in 6,632 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 787 (22-Mar-2019, 04:40 AM)voodoo614 Wrote: So there is (I am assuming) 6 firmwares for receiver and 5 for IXJT. For each IXJT firmware, there is 6 choices of receiver firmware. Since there is 5 IXJT firmwares, the calculation is just 5 x 6 = 30 different combinations.
I think the ACCESS firmware is not backward compatible with ACCST, but if you want to run ACCST, I pretty sure you can flash an ACCST compatible firmware. On the receiver you forgot the F.Port and non-F.Port versions for each type of firmware already listed, but as Andreas mentioned, there is only a single FLEX version on the receiver as there is on the module. I'll let you re-do any maths because I think my head is about to explode And of course there will be a minimum version of OpenTX required to support any of the new stuff. Maybe it's time to start creating a compatibility cross-reference spreadsheet Thinking about the ACCST and ACCESS statement it a bit more, I think you're probably right. I guess they meant not "backward compatible" rather than no "rollbacking" (is that even a word? ). I guess it was probably just some lost in translation Chinglish  Because as far as I know there is no logic in the bootloader to prevent loading old or different firmware versions - it's just simply an erase and then re-flash process. (22-Mar-2019, 07:45 AM)Andreas-sa Wrote: Flex firmware on the receiver doesn't have an EU or FCC option? there is just flex firmware what i know. Yes, correct. See how confusing it is already without the new ACCESS stuff coming into play  • Posts: 267 Threads: 26 Likes Received: 37 in 25 posts Likes Given: 68 Joined: Aug 2016 Reputation: 2 Just purchased x lite two weeks ago and now they released 2 new version?. Really disappointing. • Posts: 21,248 Threads: 587 Likes Received: 8,962 in 6,632 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 787 (22-Mar-2019, 06:34 PM)lorentz Wrote: Just purchased x lite two weeks ago and now they released 2 new version?. Really disappointing. It the same with everything unfortunately. Most of the tech companies won't publicise in advance if they are releasing a new product (or what spec a newly anticipated product will have) because it unnecessarily puts pressure on them to deliver and it might hurt sales of their existing products. For companies that have publicised the release of a new product a long way in advance, some of them have ended up shooting themselves in the foot because if then then fail to deliver on their original anticipated delivery dates they end up getting completely slated by people. One of the goggle manufacturers fell foul of doing that (I can't remember now which one) where they ended up delivering well over a year after the product was originally announced. They got an absolute canning by people on forums for taking to long to actually deliver the product to market. A similar thing happened to me albeit with something of far less value than a transmitter. I bought a ViFly v1.2 self-powered buzzer, then just one week later a much better improved v2.0 version was released...and at a lower price  If your X-Lite is unused then I guess you could potentially try and return it if you're still within the return period and then get one of these two newer versions instead when they go on sale. • Posts: 12,099 Threads: 125 Likes Received: 3,739 in 2,836 posts Likes Given: 99 Joined: Feb 2017 Reputation: 388 Let's see
Receiver:
EU
FCC
F. Port EU
F. Port FCC
Flex
ACCESS EU
ACCESS FCC
IXJT
EU
FCC
FLEX
ACCESS EU
ACCESS FCC
7 X 5 = 35. Not counting the OpenTX versions. • Posts: 5,323 Threads: 674 Likes Received: 3,160 in 1,747 posts Likes Given: 2,032 Joined: Jan 2016 Reputation: 139 I blame Frsky for the confusing amount of firmware. Just poor planning on their side. • Posts: 307 Threads: 18 Likes Received: 69 in 48 posts Likes Given: 33 Joined: Sep 2016 Reputation: 9 • Posts: 307 Threads: 18 Likes Received: 69 in 48 posts Likes Given: 33 Joined: Sep 2016 Reputation: 9 (22-Mar-2019, 07:45 AM)Andreas-sa Wrote: Flex firmware on the receiver doesn't have an EU or FCC option? there is just flex firmware what i know.
I have the X-lite and what i want the most is charging via USB.
The Pro version looks really nice!! You can mod your X-Lite to make it USB charging. https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthre...Lite-Radio Posts: 536 Threads: 19 Likes Received: 261 in 173 posts Likes Given: 168 Joined: Sep 2018 Reputation: 10 (26-Mar-2019, 10:56 AM)Dutch Drone Builder Wrote: You can mod your X-Lite to make it USB charging.
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthre...Lite-Radio Thanks! I have seen similar sulutions but this had a neat guide One downside is that you can't power up the controller and charge at the same time • |
