Posts: 41 Threads: 3 Likes Received: 13 in 11 posts Likes Given: 37 Joined: Dec 2023 Reputation: 0 04-Dec-2023, 08:07 PM (This post was last modified: 04-Dec-2023, 08:08 PM by crabcrawler.) I’m trying for higher resolution than my current FPV cam,VTX,and 5.8ghz OTG receiver system using laptop or android tablet as monitor gives me. What system will let me clearly see a target 300 yards away to be viewed on laptop or android tablet? I am returning the Walksnail Avatar because I didn’t want to use goggles for this. • Posts: 2,332 Threads: 117 Likes Received: 811 in 658 posts Likes Given: 126 Joined: Feb 2021 Reputation: 20 300 yards from the camera? Or the camera 300 yards from you? • Posts: 2,332 Threads: 117 Likes Received: 811 in 658 posts Likes Given: 126 Joined: Feb 2021 Reputation: 20 04-Dec-2023, 08:14 PM (This post was last modified: 04-Dec-2023, 08:18 PM by Rob Axel.) 300 yards isn’t that far to transmit a video signal.. but if u want to be able to SEE 300 yds in the video picture . Your gonna need good optics / lens .. Posts: 21,188 Threads: 582 Likes Received: 8,930 in 6,606 posts Likes Given: 1,425 Joined: Jun 2018 Reputation: 786 How big is the "target"? Assuming it's a small target then none of the cameras we use in this hobby are going to be able to see a small target 300 yards away. FPV cameras have lenses that give a wide FOV which makes everything look further away than it actually is. They're not designed to see narrow areas in a close up view. Even the Digital HD system cameras with their higher quality and resolution wouldn't be able to do that. This is why people are paranoid in thinking that FPV quads are spying on them. If they knew what we could actually see in the goggle screens they would stop complaining. Posts: 557 Threads: 21 Likes Received: 303 in 221 posts Likes Given: 319 Joined: Jan 2023 Reputation: 6 Sounds like you want a DJI flying camera drone or similar, not an FPV quadcopter. _____________________________________ Walksnail / Avatar … It’s better than analog ! Posts: 771 Threads: 29 Likes Received: 405 in 305 posts Likes Given: 322 Joined: Jul 2022 Reputation: 18 You're going to want something with optical zoom if you want to see something that far out. I can't even pick myself out in a field most of the time at just 50 yards. Just keep in mind, it's probably going to get costly if that's what you want. Posts: 12,099 Threads: 125 Likes Received: 3,739 in 2,836 posts Likes Given: 99 Joined: Feb 2017 Reputation: 388 04-Dec-2023, 10:31 PM (This post was last modified: 04-Dec-2023, 10:35 PM by voodoo614.) The sharpest/highest camera and video transmission with the least lag would be a DJI camera/VTX and a receiver setup. You will need to buy a compatible goggles to receive. And then output to monitor to view or view through goggles. I am not sure about cooling of the unit. And whether the camera/VTX can sustain long period of being on. There is also a HD video transmission system from DJI called the DJI Video Transmitter High Bright Monitor Combo. But that is even more bucks. But honestly, if I were you, I buy something like DJI Mini 2 for $300 at Costco. Set your drone near your target like your other camera. Use your phone to view the live stream. You can control the camera, you get pan, tilt and zoom. Edit: I assume this is for shooting target you are trying to view. Posts: 1,733 Threads: 60 Likes Received: 1,008 in 730 posts Likes Given: 96 Joined: Jan 2023 Reputation: 52 If you are viewing a stationary target from a stationary position 300m away with a screen, why not simply use a digital spotting scope. Many of them will hook up directly to your laptop or tablet, just need a sturdy tripod to mount it. Otherwise if you are specifically looking for a wireless solution and don't care too much about latency/refresh rate (ie camera and target not moving fast) then there are some open source projects using security wifi cameras like OpenIPC and OpenHD and can get up to 1080p resolution. Some of the security cameras also have inexpensive telephoto lenses. • Posts: 41 Threads: 3 Likes Received: 13 in 11 posts Likes Given: 37 Joined: Dec 2023 Reputation: 0 (04-Dec-2023, 08:12 PM)Rob Axel Wrote: 300 yards from the camera? Or the camera 300 yards from you? Camera is set 10-15 feet away from target and both are 300 yards from me and my laptop or android tablet monitor. So, need to transmit the target image 300 yards clear enough to show .. cal bullet holes. • Posts: 41 Threads: 3 Likes Received: 13 in 11 posts Likes Given: 37 Joined: Dec 2023 Reputation: 0 (04-Dec-2023, 08:14 PM)Rob Axel Wrote: 300 yards isn’t that far to transmit a video signal.. but if u want to be able to SEE 300 yds in the video picture . Your gonna need good optics / lens .. Yeah, should have clarified. I want the camera setup just far enough away to be out of direct line-of-fire and any possible richochet/ blowback of paper. This is 10 or so feet to a paper target about 2x4 feet. Just like you might imagine an archery target to be, if you’re not a shooter. Camera to receiver 300 yards… really have only 200 yards at present, but scoping out safe locations on our land that might get us further. • Posts: 41 Threads: 3 Likes Received: 13 in 11 posts Likes Given: 37 Joined: Dec 2023 Reputation: 0 (04-Dec-2023, 09:49 PM)Suros Wrote: You're going to want something with optical zoom if you want to see something that far out. I can't even pick myself out in a field most of the time at just 50 yards. Just keep in mind, it's probably going to get costly if that's what you want. Thanks all for replies. I’ve clarified the setup in previous answers. Camera at most is looking at a 2 foot x 4 foot image from at most 15 feet away. The image of the target needs to be clear enough to show pencil size holes. It’s that image being broadcast to my laptop or tablet uprange 300 yards away. Right now, I’ve got a fair quality, just barely, using a Readytosky 2000 TVL 1/1.8 camera fitted with an M12 Zoom lens, AKK FX -2 VTX, transmitting to a Skyroid 5.8 OTG UVC 150 ch receiver. The receiver being UTC connects directly via USB-C. • Posts: 41 Threads: 3 Likes Received: 13 in 11 posts Likes Given: 37 Joined: Dec 2023 Reputation: 0 (04-Dec-2023, 11:22 PM)mstc Wrote: If you are viewing a stationary target from a stationary position 300m away with a screen, why not simply use a digital spotting scope. Many of them will hook up directly to your laptop or tablet, just need a sturdy tripod to mount it. Otherwise if you are specifically looking for a wireless solution and don't care too much about latency/refresh rate (ie camera and target not moving fast) then there are some open source projects using security wifi cameras like OpenIPC and OpenHD and can get up to 1080p resolution. Some of the security cameras also have inexpensive telephoto lenses. A digital spotting scope with good glass is pricey and doesn’t give instant results to the shooter. Also subsequent shots aren’t tracked and my brother and I are too impatient and old for walking across a marshy valley and up to the target to mark it and return. This makes for a less practical experience. Nope, need a camera on the target streaming back to the shooting table. Commercial system is about $900. Web has a recipe I’m currently folllwing but results are marginal. There’s been improvements since article was published so I’m trying to DIY only it’s become more difficult than expected. Posts: 1,733 Threads: 60 Likes Received: 1,008 in 730 posts Likes Given: 96 Joined: Jan 2023 Reputation: 52 Looks like there are commercial products for your use case, don't know how well they work though. Here is one that claims 1 mile range wifi 1080p weatherproof ir illuminated wireless camera and receiver, with target marking app too. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MFR9MDR/ref=emc_b_5_t And its budget brother good to 300 yards https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MC56WZ3/ref=emc_b_5_i Posts: 41 Threads: 3 Likes Received: 13 in 11 posts Likes Given: 37 Joined: Dec 2023 Reputation: 0 (04-Dec-2023, 09:12 PM)QuadFlyer68 Wrote: Sounds like you want a DJI flying camera drone or similar, not an FPV quadcopter. Ok. Why is that? I’d think a copter could briefly hover to take a snapshot then return home, settle back down until the next shot. Seems like that might work. You all are giving me ideas! Please respond benefits of copter vs flying drone. • Posts: 41 Threads: 3 Likes Received: 13 in 11 posts Likes Given: 37 Joined: Dec 2023 Reputation: 0 Good links! Another system, a bit pricey but has a software marking system that keeps track of progress…. It costs more but I don’t mind if quality is there. If I’m so I don’t want to throw good money after bad trying to find out the idea doesn’t work. Still, having extra transmitters and cams might get me into building my own, but I don’t know if that’d be too hard of a learning curve. • |