Posts: 9 Threads: 1 Likes Received: 2 in 2 posts Likes Given: 9 Joined: Apr 2017 Reputation: 0 24-Apr-2017, 11:51 AM (This post was last modified: 24-Apr-2017, 03:32 PM by Ritzyy.) Hi all,
I am new to the forum and quads. I am looking at getting into the hobby and have done some research into what I should buy. I wanted to ask here before I purchase anything in case there is something glaringly wrong with my list of components. I am also purchasing a Cheerson CX-10 as for practice as this seems to be common advice (to avoid breaking more expensive quads on my first flight).
Currently I am looking to place an order for the following:
Frame - Martian II 220 220mm
This frame seems like a cheap but good frame for a first quadcopter (however if there is a great advantage to picking something more expensive I am happy to look into this).
FC - Betaflight F3 (FPVModel)
Motors - EMAX RS2205 2300KV Armattan Oomph 2206/2300 KV Motors [Thanks RENOV8R]
Prop - Kingkong 5040 5x4x3 3-Blade
ESC - 4X Racerstar RS30A V2 30A Blheli_S ESC OPTO 2-4S
LiPo - Infinity Graphene 4S 70C
LiPo Charger - SkyRC IMAX B6AC V2
[Added after edit] Transmitter - Taranis Q X7 [Thanks sloscotty]
[Added after edit] Receiver - Frsky XM+ Micro D16 SBUS
I figure I can begin assembling this while playing around with the Cheerson, then try flying my assembled quad before dropping some money on fpv goggles, camera, antenna etc.
I will also have to pick up a soldering iron and any other workshop essentials (I have had a look the 'Drone Workbench Necessities' thread).
Can you let me know whether there is something major I am missing, something which is worth upgrading, or components which will not mesh?
Thanks! Posts: 2,416 Threads: 51 Likes Received: 1,861 in 1,175 posts Likes Given: 3,315 Joined: Mar 2016 Reputation: 74 24-Apr-2017, 01:05 PM (This post was last modified: 24-Apr-2017, 01:10 PM by sloscotty.) The major thing I see missing is radio transmitter and receiver. Taranis Q X7 might be a good transmitter if you don't already have one.
BTW. Welcome to the forum! Posts: 1,773 Threads: 30 Likes Received: 1,199 in 755 posts Likes Given: 714 Joined: Oct 2016 Reputation: 45 Nice list, the Martian II is a great frame for the price. The only thing I'd change personally is the Emax RS motors. I've had a couple sets and found that they're quite power-hungry and don't perform as well as some of the new motors on the market. Seems the hot item with racers right now is the Armattan Oomphs (great price too!) http://www.rccrazed.com/powertrain-motor...p-354.html Also, I just installed a set of the RMRC Blue Series motors out of curiosity and they seem to outperform the Emax RS on every level for me https://www.readymaderc.com/store/index....ts_id=6124 Posts: 9 Threads: 1 Likes Received: 2 in 2 posts Likes Given: 9 Joined: Apr 2017 Reputation: 0 (24-Apr-2017, 01:05 PM)sloscotty Wrote: The major thing I see missing is radio transmitter and receiver. Taranis Q X7 might be a good transmitter if you don't already have one.
BTW. Welcome to the forum! Thanks! Yeah... I wouldn't get far without a transmitter and receiver. Thanks for the suggestion, I figure a good transmitter would be something I should invest in early so I don't have to upgrade later down the track. Just looked up a few reviews on the Taranis Q X7 and this seems to fit the bill. Can't see any reason why I would need an X9D. (24-Apr-2017, 01:20 PM)RENOV8R Wrote: Nice list, the Martian II is a great frame for the price. The only thing I'd change personally is the Emax RS motors. I've had a couple sets and found that they're quite power-hungry and don't perform as well as some of the new motors on the market. Seems the hot item with racers right now is the Armattan Oomphs (great price too!)
http://www.rccrazed.com/powertrain-motor...p-354.html
Also, I just installed a set of the RMRC Blue Series motors out of curiosity and they seem to outperform the Emax RS on every level for me
https://www.readymaderc.com/store/index....ts_id=6124 Thanks mate, those Armattan Oomph motors sound like the go. I see Emax has released an RS2205 S. Is this version more competitive with the motors you have listed, or are the Armattan Oomph motors still a better recommendation? I have edited the original post with your suggestions. Glad to see most of my list seems to make the cut, I guess I should start ordering! ![[-]](https://intofpv.com/images/collapse.png) • Posts: 1,773 Threads: 30 Likes Received: 1,199 in 755 posts Likes Given: 714 Joined: Oct 2016 Reputation: 45 I don't know if the new Emax S series are better, I just want to know what you think of the Oomphs before I order some. I love spending other people's money hahaha Posts: 1,590 Threads: 89 Likes Received: 1,283 in 768 posts Likes Given: 1,274 Joined: Jan 2017 Reputation: 31 I might add, the one area that I feel I have some pretty thurough experience with: For practice in addition to the Cheerson try out simulators. For a free one that is decent go with DRL, if you're willing to spend a couple of bucks for something with a little more realistic physics (since the update) go with Liftoff for $20. The Taranis QX7 will work with both sims. I owe my rapid progress in flying to my time flying simulators carl.vegas
Current Quads: Operational: Diatone GT2 200 In need of repair: Bumble Bee, tehStein, Slightly modified Vortex 250 Posts: 2,286 Threads: 38 Likes Received: 1,527 in 995 posts Likes Given: 1,881 Joined: Apr 2016 Reputation: 72 DRL simulator. Runs on Windows and Mac, but not Linux.  • Posts: 9 Threads: 1 Likes Received: 2 in 2 posts Likes Given: 9 Joined: Apr 2017 Reputation: 0 (24-Apr-2017, 07:16 PM)Carl.Vegas Wrote: I might add, the one area that I feel I have some pretty thurough experience with: For practice in addition to the Cheerson try out simulators. For a free one that is decent go with DRL, if you're willing to spend a couple of bucks for something with a little more realistic physics (since the update) go with Liftoff for $20. The Taranis QX7 will work with both sims. I owe my rapid progress in flying to my time flying simulators Thanks definitely giving DRL a download. • Posts: 1,504 Threads: 83 Likes Received: 944 in 654 posts Likes Given: 2,142 Joined: Sep 2016 Reputation: 24 I have to say if you haven't got the cheerson yet, I would say rather go for the Eachine (or other) H8 mini here - https://m.banggood.com/Eachine-H8-Mini-H...75808.html It can be flashed with acro firmware, controlled with a 4-in-1 module added to a TX, can be whooped, can give telemetry, one of my H8 mini boards is driving 720 motors the other 8520's, apparently this board can drive brushless motors too! You will need an ST-link to flash acro firmware like this - https://m.banggood.com/STM8-STM32-Emulat...mds=search And maybe my how-to here - http://intofpv.com/t-silverxxx-acro-fw-f...blue-board But anyway, welcome! Windless fields and smokeless builds Posts: 1,590 Threads: 89 Likes Received: 1,283 in 768 posts Likes Given: 1,274 Joined: Jan 2017 Reputation: 31 (25-Apr-2017, 02:52 AM)Ritzyy Wrote: Thanks definitely giving DRL a download. One thing I should point out is DLR sim doesn't even give a self-leveling mode option. You have to fly Acro. This is a good thing since that's the best way to fly  It's harder to fly acro at first, but lots of people say that it's easier to learn in acro in the long run because self leveling modes can teach you bad habits. I never learned self leveling modes so I can't say for sure but I don't need to know it because acro is the mode you need to know how to fly in to be able to have all the control and capabilities that you see in the videos. carl.vegas
Current Quads: Operational: Diatone GT2 200 In need of repair: Bumble Bee, tehStein, Slightly modified Vortex 250 Posts: 1,504 Threads: 83 Likes Received: 944 in 654 posts Likes Given: 2,142 Joined: Sep 2016 Reputation: 24 (25-Apr-2017, 10:12 AM)Carl.Vegas Wrote: ...
It's harder to fly acro at first, but lots of people say that it's easier to learn in acro in the long run because self leveling modes can teach you bad habits.... Exactly why I suggest the H8, I'm pretty sure at $13 + $6 for the ST-link its the cheapest accro rig you can get?! Windless fields and smokeless builds • Posts: 114 Threads: 12 Likes Received: 38 in 24 posts Likes Given: 1 Joined: Feb 2016 Reputation: 1 The XM+ does not have telemetry, not even RSSI. Buy an xsr, it has proper telemetry, it will still easily fit on a 5' build • Posts: 2,286 Threads: 38 Likes Received: 1,527 in 995 posts Likes Given: 1,881 Joined: Apr 2016 Reputation: 72 The XM and XM+ receivers send RSSI on channel 16 so that you can display it on your OSD. It's not telemetry as in transmitting it back to your radio, but RSSI information is available.
They are also much, much smaller than the XSR and cost significantly less. • Posts: 114 Threads: 12 Likes Received: 38 in 24 posts Likes Given: 1 Joined: Feb 2016 Reputation: 1 I didn't know it has RSSI. However in BF, AUX 5-12 are unavailable above a certain frequency I believe
I prefer full smartport telemetry, you can tune the PIDs and stuff.
It IS true that they are smaller and cheaper, but the XSR still fits comfortable on a 5 build. Yep, it costs more. • Posts: 2,286 Threads: 38 Likes Received: 1,527 in 995 posts Likes Given: 1,881 Joined: Apr 2016 Reputation: 72 (25-Apr-2017, 12:59 PM)varkokonyi Wrote: I didn't know it has RSSI. However in BF, AUX 5-12 are unavailable above a certain frequency I believe
I prefer full smartport telemetry, you can tune the PIDs and stuff.
It IS true that they are smaller and cheaper, but the XSR still fits comfortable on a 5 build. Yep, it costs more. The CLI variable max_aux_channels can be used to control how many there are. If using the XM+, there is alternative firmware available to download from FrSky which will output RSSI on channel 8 instead. If you have an F3 or better flight controller, there's no problem setting max_aux_channels to 12. In Betaflight 3.1.5, the maximum number of AUX channels was set to 6 for F1 and F3 processors, but this limitation was removed again in 3.1.6. • |
