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First and furious
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Hi there everyone!

First time writing here, so a quick intro. Been gathering courage (money, to be honest) to fullfill my dream of building my own first quad and now the time has come! I'm more interested in freestyle and acro than racing and also have some interest towards long range flying, but that will not be for this build. With this build, I'm aiming to get a solid good first build, that will keep me busy, happy(most of the time) and on my toes, pushing the envelope so to say Smile  I have quite the many hours behind me, reading, comparing, learning and so on, that got me to this list I have listed below, but now I'm looking for your comments and guidance on what I might have missed and what you think. I feel that quite much all of the choices are made based on what I think would suite my needs, but I can be proven wrong Wink 

Frame: Martian II 
FC: Betaflight F4 (https://www.fpvmodel.com/betaflightf4-fl...g1351.html)
Rx: FrSky R-XSR
Motors: BrotherHobby Returner R4 2206 2450KV or T-Motor F60 PRO 2500KV
ESCs: Betaflight 32Bit 35A 2-6S BLHeli_32 ESC Dshot1200
Battery: MultiStar Racer Series 1400mAh 4S 65C
Props: Dalprop Cyclone T5046C 5046

FPV
Onboard HD: Runcam 2
Onboard FPV: Runcam Swift 2
VTX: TBS Unify Pro Race
VTX antenna: Aomway 5.8GHz FPV 4 Leaf Clover antenna
Headset: Eachine EV800D


Radio controller will be FrSky Taranis Q X7. What do you think?
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#2
Pretty good list of parts, I'd suggest getting some spare antennas for the VTx and Rx. Possibly a spare motor also. The one part that does not fit is the battery. It might not have a good discharge rate once you get comfortable with flying. C ratings are often made up, but they can be a useful ballpark estimate for how heavy you can use the throttle. I find that my tattu 4s 75C 1300s are a little lacking and I just started flying this fall. I now have (too)many 95C r-line's and they are much better. There are many threads on batteries here with many other brands being recommended also.
Flying: Talon 6S 6" 2407s 381g no bat, Martian 3, 5" 2205s sooo heavy + gopro session 5 573g AUW, Aurora 5" 2205s 280g no bat, Druckbaer 3" 1404s 172g AUW 3S 550, BQE Megapixel 2.5" 1107s 139g AUW 3S 550, BabyHawk R 2.5" 164g AUW 3S 550 (stock except microeagle, CRSF, 2.5" arms) and maybe 3 more, for now...
 




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#3
The betaflight f4 can be a little difficult to solder. If you have soldering experience, you should be good.
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(03-Dec-2017, 01:33 AM)McDee Wrote: Pretty good list of parts, I'd suggest getting some spare antennas for the VTx and Rx. Possibly a spare motor also. The one part that does not fit is the battery. It might not have a good discharge rate once you get comfortable with flying. C ratings are often made up, but they can be a useful ballpark estimate for how heavy you can use the throttle. I find that my tattu 4s 75C 1300s are a little lacking and I just started flying this fall. I now have (too)many 95C r-line's and they are much better. There are many threads on batteries here with many other brands being recommended also.

Ok, thanks for the suggestions! I'm living in Europe and the regulations for mailing batteries have become quite strict especially here in Finland. Found th R-lines from here: http://www.gensace.de/tattu-r-line-1550m...-pack.htmlhttp://www.gensace.de/tattu-r-line-1300m...-pack.html so that might work, but need to do some more digging and read those threads.

(03-Dec-2017, 01:59 AM)voodoo614 Wrote: The betaflight f4 can be a little difficult to solder. If you have soldering experience, you should be good.
Yeah, I do have quite much experience on that front. Thanks for the heads up!


What about the motors? The F60s seem to draw more amps, so the requirements for the battery is bigger at least, but the reviews on both have been very good. Also I'm not quite sure about the props yet, but seems that these are suggested for this kind of setup and I got to start from somewhere Smile
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#5
For props, just have to fly a bunch of offerings to see what suits you. Love Dal Prop, they are top notch. Have been flying T5040 V2's recently and really like them. Tried 20 different ones and have settled there. You will find those that work best for your style...it is amazing how different each style fly!

Cannot speak on the motors. Have read and watched many reviews on the Tiger motors and all are good. I feel like it would be hard to go wrong using them. Even with a higher potential for amp draw, that is really dependent on how you manage your throttle.  Big Grin
SoCal Kaity :D
OMG, no one told me it would be this much fun!  Addicted :)
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#6
I have the F60 and they have plenty of punch. F60 can drain your lipo quite quick. You probably should look for lipo with higher C rating because F60 demands a lot of current. Don't mistake C rate for Amp. Drone lab has good reviews and they are from Europe. Unfortunately, they seem to always be sold out.

Dalprops are great. But it is all personal preferences.

I have moved away from clover antenna. They tend to bend from crashes. Pagoda or TBS are solid. I haven't had a TBS break yet. I DIY my pagoda, so they are so cheap for me. They rarely break also.
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(03-Dec-2017, 02:46 PM)kaitylynn Wrote: For props, just have to fly a bunch of offerings to see what suits you. Love Dal Prop, they are top notch. Have been flying T5040 V2's recently and really like them. Tried 20 different ones and have settled there. You will find those that work best for your style...it is amazing how different each style fly!

Cannot speak on the motors. Have read and watched many reviews on the Tiger motors and all are good. I feel like it would be hard to go wrong using them. Even with a higher potential for amp draw, that is really dependent on how you manage your throttle.  Big Grin
Ok, thanks. Will give the F60s a try, see how they feel with the Dal 5040s  Thumbs Up

(03-Dec-2017, 05:19 PM)voodoo614 Wrote: I have the F60 and they have plenty of punch. F60 can drain your lipo quite quick. You probably should look for lipo with higher C rating because F60 demands a lot of current. Don't mistake C rate for Amp. Drone lab has good reviews and they are from Europe. Unfortunately, they seem to always be sold out.

Dalprops are great. But it is all personal preferences.

I have moved away from clover antenna. They tend to bend from crashes. Pagoda or TBS are solid. I haven't had a TBS break yet. I DIY my pagoda, so they are so cheap for me. They rarely break also.

Ah, I was pondering between those, as I read the article about Pagoda on Oscars website, yet the reviews on BG got me deciding on the clover, even though it was said, as you did, that they tend to break. Weeeel heck, any suggestion on some specific pagoda?  Big Grin

Damn the postage fees for batteries are high..
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#8
Pagoda can break easily if you don't protect the antennas. When I make mine, I just shrink wrap the two large PCB together. Similar to the Emax pagoda. I haven't have an issue since. You can also print covers or even just foam for protection.

Here is link for 60 pieces of pagoda 3
http://fishpepper.de/2017/10/06/pagoda-3...r-edition/

Here is link for 160 pieces
https://blog.seidel-philipp.de/do-it-you...ss-than-2/

Here Maarten Baert's site. Check out the "Extra" section for assembly and alternative methods for reenforcement.
http://www.maartenbaert.be/quadcopters/a...a-antenna/
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