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Esy's First Quad Build
#1
Hello all!
Im watching FPV drones long time, now I finally decide to build one. In future Freestyle will be the main focus of mine .. 

because I have 3D printer, I really wanna go this way of 3d printed frame, I chose this one Peon230
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:629338

I have Taranis Q X7
and Aomway Commander V1

And the batteries.. Can you recommend me some 3S for start? I don't think 4S would be best, but feel free to leave your comment.

About hardware I discuss this with my friend who pilot drones for some time. We came with this setup.



4X Racerstar Racing Edition 2205 BR2205 2300KV 2-4S Brushless Motor For QAV250 ZMR250 RC Drone FPV Racing
https://www.banggood.com/4X-Racerstar-22...rehouse=CN

4X Racerstar RS30A 30A Blheli_S OPTO 2-4S ESC Support Oneshot42 Multishot for RC FPV Racing Drone
https://www.banggood.com/4X-Racerstar-RS...rehouse=CN

10 Pairs GEPRC 5040 V2 5 Inch 3 Blade Propeller Transparent Color For RC Multirotor FPV Racing Drone
https://www.banggood.com/10-Pairs-GEPRC-...rehouse=CN

Omnibus F4 Pro V3 Betaflight Flight Controller Built-in OSD Barometer SD Blackbox for RC Drone
https://www.banggood.com/Omnibus-F4-Pro-...rehouse=CN

2-6S Power Distribution Board Built-in Dual 5V/12V BEC for RC Drone FPV Racing 9.4g
https://www.banggood.com/2-6S-Power-Dist...rehouse=CN

FrSky R-XSR Ultra SBUS/CPPM D16 16CH Mini Redundancy Receiver 1.5g for RC Multirotor FPV Racing Drone
https://www.banggood.com/Frsky-XM-Micro-...rehouse=CN

Foxeer Monster V2 2.5mm 1200TVL 1/3 CMOS 16:9 PAL/NTSC IR Block FPV Camera w/ OSD and Audio
https://www.banggood.com/Foxeer-Monster-...rehouse=CN

Eachine TS5823L 5.8G 200mw 40CH Raceband Mini FPV Transmitter Skyzone Boscam Upgraded
https://www.banggood.com/Eachine-TS5823L...rehouse=CN

Foxeer 5.8G 3dBi TX/RX RHCP Omni FPV Antenna RP-SMA/SMA
https://www.banggood.com/Foxeer-5_8G-3dB...rehouse=CN

FOXEER Box 4K CMOS FOV 155 Degree Micro Bluetooth WiFi Camera Mini FPV Sport Action Cam For RC Drone
https://www.banggood.com/FOXEER-Box-4K-C...MgS61ZrcfE


Thanks for reading and please write your suggestions

Esy
#2
To be honest, I think you should start with a carbon fibre frame as your first build.
3D printed frames are a bit uncertain, they tend to break easily and aren't very stiff which will affect flight performance.
It's a nice experiment, but maybe do it when you have a bit more experience with flying a drone? Just to avoid troubles and headaches Smile
I recommend the Martian Frame.

For FC/PDB, you can get a AIO FC for much cheaper, I am using the Omnibus F4 AIO SD, it's pretty good.

For RX, I recommend getting the XSR, it's half the price as the R-XSR, but same capability. If size isn't an issue, then XSR is totally fine.

The Monster camera is pretty bad if you ask me. I would rather get the HS1177 or the Swift 2. Predator and Eagle 2 are also excellent choices if you have the budget.

The rest looks fine to me.
Take a look at my "budget build for beginners" tutorial: https://oscarliang.com/build-racing-dron...uadcopter/
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I love to create things Big Grin So thats the way I wanna start with 3d printed frame, but if its really better to go with carbon fiber, I can go with it.

Will look at your recomedation parts. And Also read the tutorial. As I said, I dont have much experience with building drones. And The number of variations are HUGE Smile

For additional Info, Budget is not the problem.
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Can second the parts listed by Oscar. 3D printing is awesome for certain things. Unless you have logged mad hours on a Sim, crashing is a given. And the durability of 3D printed parts on impact is pretty crap. Especially ABS. Plus, the added heft of carbon makes it a tad more stable mid-air. Also, if you are on the YouTube much, check out UAVFutures channel. He just did recently(a few days as go) a very complete build, step by step. Well worth checking out.
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(12-Dec-2017, 05:00 AM)s3npai Wrote: Can second the parts listed by Oscar. 3D printing is awesome for certain things. Unless you have logged mad hours on a Sim, crashing is a given. And the durability of 3D printed parts on impact is pretty crap. Especially ABS. Plus, the added heft of carbon makes it a tad more stable mid-air. Also, if you are on the YouTube much, check out UAVFutures channel. He just did recently(a few days as go) a very complete build, step by step. Well worth checking out.

I was planned print this from CFjet its 20% carbon + 80% petg. But I search alot about printing frames after oscar pointed, this could be not the best way to build 1st drone. And I think Ill go for carbon frame. And second drone will be th eprinted one!

Oke, just check flight of the build from UAVFutures you pointed out. This machine is mad! I think Ill inpire from this Smile  Because this build is so fast  :O
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(12-Dec-2017, 05:13 AM)Esy Wrote: I was planned print this from CFjet its 20% carbon + 80% petg. But I search alot about printing frames after oscar pointed, this could be not the best way to build 1st drone. And I think Ill go for carbon frame. And second drone will be th eprinted one!

Oke, just check flight of the build from UAVFutures you pointed out. This machine is mad! I think Ill inpire from this Smile  Because this build is so fast  :O

It is terribly fast! Depending on who you buy from, make sure you get decent batteries. I would start with something along the lines of 3S 45c to begin with. They are cheap for when you crash one or accidentally chop the leads, and do not drop enough current to get you into too much trouble. I have experience with Tattu(Amazon, decent), ZOP(banggood, terrible) and Indestructible Quads(they have their own website, best batteries yet). Tattus and the IDQ batteries were good, but the ZOP batteries did not push any voltage. Would quickly alarm "land now" on punches because it could not keep up. But your call there. Luckily there are quite a few good battery makers there already
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I concur and back up what Oscar says about going straight to 4s... I made the mistake of reading old materials about how 3s batteries were somehow better for a new pilot and started with them and I regretted it the moment I had bought my first 4s battery. Very quickly I learned that 4s gave me the power I needed to recover from mistakes and avoid pounding into the ground due to gravity having too much power over me.

I do concur with s3npai's comment about Indestructible Quad's batteries. I have 3 black labels myself and they've held up to SERIOUS abuse. I've managed to kill at least 1 of every other kind of battery I've owned (including a Tattu R-Line) but the black labels haven't shown any sign of fatigue or puffing yet. I am grateful that Tom recommended them to me and they'll almost certainly become my exclusive battery when I need to buy more in the future. Oh and another plus side... they're very affordable!

Something I notice but I don't think anyone has mentioned is that you are going with the Foxeer box camera. I believe this should fit in go-pro mounts? Depending on which frame you go with you may want to print yourself any one of the various mounts that are out there. For me, I don't do 3d printing so I end up just buying the ones that Lumenier sells but I think you'd probably prefer DIY on that so I figured I'd mention it.
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Current Quads: Operational: Diatone GT2 200 In need of repair: Bumble Bee, tehStein,  Slightly modified Vortex 250 
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Hi Esy, Welcome to the forum, looking forward to seeing your build come together...

Glad to hear Carl and s3npai singing the praises of Indestructible Quads, I stumbled across a thread on RC groups with loads of people praising the quality and affordability of the Black Label batteries, and they seem to provide truly amazing customer service as well. As far as I know, Indestructible is still a 1 man band, and the owner quit his day job to focus on providing great products and service to the hobby, so I try to recommend them as often as possible!

I'm not sure if you have read much info on the Racerstar motors, but it seems that some people are saying that quality control is not very good, and that 1 in every 5 motors can have problems. The price is very hard to beat though... The RCX motors from myRCmart.com are slightly more expensive, but they are balanced at the factory which leads me to believe that QC is probably a bit tighter.
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At first place, thanks for all who read my thread and recomend me anything. Its really nice to get fast feedback, I think I would love this community Smile

So after another 24 hours I spend 10 hours of reading about drone hardware. My head gonna explode Big Grin

There is Version 2 of my build. 

I Sligttly push this buid to midbudget range. So please feel free to comment. Am I missing Something?



Anniversary Special Edition Martian 215 215mm Carbon Fiber RC Drone FPV Racing Frame Kit 136g
https://www.banggood.com/Anniversary-Spe...rehouse=CN

2 Pair DALPROP T5045C Cyclone 5 Inch 3 Blade Propeller Clover Prop Black Red Orange Green
https://www.banggood.com/2-Pair-DALPROP-...rehouse=CN

T-Motor F40 III 2306 2400KV 2600KV 2750KV Brushless Motor For 210 220 250 260 RC Drone FPV Racing Multi Rotor ( 2400K variant )
https://www.banggood.com/T-Motor-F40-III...rehouse=CN

Holybro Kakute F4 AIO All in One V2 Flight Controller STM32 F405 MCU Integrated PDB OSD for RC Drone
https://www.banggood.com/Holybro-Kakute-...rehouse=CN

4X Racerstar RS30A 30A Blheli_S OPTO 2-4S ESC Support Oneshot42 Multishot for RC FPV Racing Drone
https://www.banggood.com/4X-Racerstar-RS...rehouse=CN

Frsky XM+ Micro D16 SBUS Full Range Receiver Up to 16CH for RC FPV Racing Drone
https://www.banggood.com/FrSky-R-XSR-Ult...rehouse=CN

Matek 5.8G 40CH 25/200/500mW switchable Video Transmitter VTX-HV with 5V/1A BEC Output for RC FPV Racing Drone
https://www.banggood.com/Matek-5-8G-40CH...rehouse=CN

Foxeer 5.8G 3dBi TX/RX RHCP Omni FPV Antenna RP-SMA/SMA
https://www.banggood.com/Foxeer-5_8G-3dB...rehouse=CN

RunCam Eagle 2 800TVL CMOS 2.1mm/2.5mm 4:3/16:9 NTSC/PAL Switchable Super WDR FPV Camera Low Latency
https://www.banggood.com/RunCam-Eagle-2-...rehouse=CN

FOV 130 Degree 1/1.8" 2.5mm Wide Angle FPV Camera Lens for RunCam Eagle2 16:9
https://www.banggood.com/FOV-130-Degree-...rehouse=CN

FOXEER Box 4K CMOS FOV 155 Degree Micro Bluetooth WiFi Camera Mini FPV Sport Action Cam For RC Drone
https://www.banggood.com/FOXEER-Box-4K-C...MgS61ZrcfE

Indestructible Quads "Black Label" 4S True 80C Racing LiPo 1500mAh Battery - Armored Edition
https://indestructiblequads.com/collecti...ed-edition

Suleve™ M3NH6 M3 Nylon Screw White/Black Hex Screw Nut Nylon Pcb Standoff Assortment Kit 300pcs
https://www.banggood.com/300pcs-Nylon-He...rehouse=CN

5 Pcs 5V Electric Magnetic Active Buzzer Continuous Beep Continuously
https://www.banggood.com/5-Pcs-5V-Electr...rehouse=CN

AMASS XT60+ Plug Connector 14AWG 10cm Power Cable Wire
https://www.banggood.com/AMASS-XT60-Plug...rehouse=CN

Panasonic FM Series Capacitors
will buy them in local shop. Amazon doesnt sending them to me :/


[edit] Swtiched FC to Holybro Kakute F4
My first quad build Thread
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I would get several sets of props, at least 5 sets. Also a couple of batteries., at least 2 or 3. Don't forget a battery charger.
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(13-Dec-2017, 01:12 AM)Lowlife Wrote: I would get several sets of props, at least 5 sets. Also a couple of batteries., at least 2 or 3. Don't forget a battery charger.

Yup, peoples recomend me get few sets of props, I think Ill get bag of them, to be sure Big Grin

Battery charger will be from my firned, he have spare one. 
Im planning to get 3 batteries.

And another question, what is good batrery fo googles?
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#12
Damn... you are getting the top end build Smile
I think for motors, 2400KV is a better choice.. I personally think 2600KV is for hardcore racers, that's going to be really hard on your battery.. no need for that kind of power when you are starting out.

Oh you will also need some Nylon standoff / nuts for the Matek VTX, you are supposed to mount it on top of the FC, and it doesn't come with any standoffs:
This is a great assortment, spare will be useful for future builds and repair!
https://www.banggood.com/300pcs-Nylon-He...95650.html

Oh, don't forget the Low ESR capacitor, it will help clean up your video and gyro, you only need one, save the rest for your future quads Smile
http://amzn.to/2jFXrTE

And buzzer and XT60 pigtail:
http://bit.ly/2uw8Cp4
https://www.banggood.com/AMASS-XT60-Plug...rehouse=CN

(13-Dec-2017, 01:30 AM)Esy Wrote: And another question, what is good batrery fo googles?

what Goggles do you have?
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(13-Dec-2017, 01:33 AM)Oscar Wrote: Damn... you are getting the top end build Smile
I think for motors, 2400KV is a better choice.. I personally think 2600KV is for hardcore racers, that's going to be really hard on your battery.. no need for that kind of power when you are starting out.

Oh you will also need some Nylon standoff / nuts for the Matek VTX, you are supposed to mount it on top of the FC, and it doesn't come with any standoffs:
This is a great assortment, spare will be useful for future builds and repair!
https://www.banggood.com/300pcs-Nylon-He...95650.html

Oh, don't forget the Low ESR capacitor, it will help clean up your video and gyro, you only need one, save the rest for your future quads Smile
http://amzn.to/2jFXrTE

And buzzer and XT60 pigtail:
http://bit.ly/2uw8Cp4
https://www.banggood.com/AMASS-XT60-Plug...rehouse=CN


what Goggles do you have?

Ok noted, changing to 2400 version. Sometimes its hard to get what is low/top budget and what is lot/top skill. but Im gettin in it!Smile

So I just added theese part to list.

I bought Aomway Commander V1, I think its nice choice.  
At this moment, flying in Liftoff, waiting for my KingKong Tiny6 to come Smile
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You will have some good fun with the Tiny6. My tiny7 can suffer a bit from prop wash oscillation, just remember to keep moving, a slight drop in altitude while hovering can result in falling into prop wash, which can be hard to recover from. It doesn't quite have the power to easily recover from flips and tricks though, but its a great little quad for blasting round the house and (on still days) the garden.
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(13-Dec-2017, 12:15 AM)Esy Wrote: At first place, thanks for all who read my thread and recomend me anything. Its really nice to get fast feedback, I think I would love this community Smile

So after another 24 hours I spend 10 hours of reading about drone hardware. My head gonna explode Big Grin

Lol, now that's a good build! Glad we could help! We are all techies and love the hobby, so we enjoy helping out!! Make sure to post some videos for us to watch as well!
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