Hello! 

I am completely new to the realm of FPV quads and I am looking for come confirmation that I have all i need before I spend a ton of money 

This I what I am currently looking to get:

Quad part:

ZMR250 V2 Carbon fiber frame
KINGKONG 2204 2300kv motors
Little bee 20A ESC
KINGKONG 5040 Propellers
Beerotor F3 FC
Beerotor PDB
Lumenier 1500mAh 3s 45c Battery

FlySky FS-i6 2.4G with FS-iA6B receiver

FPV part:
http://www.getfpv.com/fat-shark-teleport...r-usa.html

The total for all of this plus a battery charger and a LiPo-safe bag is just shy of $450 which is about the max I want to spend.

Is there anything I am missing or that should be replaced with a different item?

Thanks!

~Xtopher

My tip is go for a 4s battery and maybe a 2204 motor instead. I like the kingkong 5040 props and they are almost indestructable. you should also consider 20A ESCs.
For FC and PDB, you can find a Beerotor Combo with FC, OSD and PDB with current sensor.

I have not tested these motors, but I have just installed them on a Lisam210 frame with Littlebee 20A and beerotor FC and PDB combo. I will probably test them this weekend.

Props:
http://www.banggood.com/10-Pairs-KINGKON...00415.html

Battery:
http://www.banggood.com/Giant-Power-Dino...33107.html

2204 Motor:
http://www.surveilzone.com/SunnySky-X220...tor-g-1399

Littlebee 20A:
http://www.banggood.com/4X-FVT-LittleBee...31934.html

Littlebee 20A pro:
http://www.banggood.com/4X-Favourite-FVT...49077.html

Beerotor F3 FC:
http://rctimer.com/product-1527.html

Beerotor PDB:
http://rctimer.com/product-1619-index.html

If you're new why not just get a kit like this off ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Emax-Nighthawk...Sw14xWK1RM

That's what i did at first then have moved to choosing the parts for the builds myself.

Don't forget to budget for a really good soldering iron (with small tips).

I really like the Antex 18W irons, like: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antex-Soldering-...Swq7JTz-gQ

Add a really fine tip, like: http://www.amazon.com/Soldering-Iron-Tip...1464947957
and you can handle any of the fine soldering you will need to do.

Also you'll need heat shrink, wire, maybe additional standoffs, etc. And a good set of metric drivers (and small wrenches) is a good idea too.

My 2 cents here, this soldering iron is awesome and relatively cheap:
http://www.goot.jp/en/handakote/px-201/

(03-Jun-2016, 10:52 AM)lolFPV Wrote: If you're new why not just get a kit like this off ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Emax-Nighthawk...Sw14xWK1RM

That's what i did at first then have moved to choosing the parts for the builds myself.

I think this is a good idea (to save money).  Since you are in WA state, you are very near HobbyKing West.  You might take a look at their selection of ARFS.
Here's one that jumped out at me: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store...ouse_.html

(It's a 180 but doesn't look too bad.  Hint:  if you get to the page and just wait there a few minutes, they give you a chance to knock about $20 off the price.  )

or if you're not to comfortable with soldering you can always go this route http://m.banggood.com/Eachine-Racer-250-...08942.html
it's with in your budget and it comes with a little 7" monitor which in my opinion is easier to learn with than googles. it comes with what looks to be like a i6 clone or rebranded tx.

I think the biggest question here is, can you fly? Building a 250 made for speed and agility is good and all but if you cant fly you cant handle the speed in these beasts. I recommend you buy something that is small, easy to learn and doesnt break on your first crash.

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(03-Jun-2016, 01:13 PM)JimmyLe813 Wrote: or if you're not to comfortable with soldering you can always go this route http://m.banggood.com/Eachine-Racer-250-...08942.html
it's with in your budget and it comes with a little 7" monitor which in my opinion is easier to learn with than googles. it comes with what looks to be like a i6 clone or rebranded tx.

Falcon 180 is cheaper and a better quad overall. Needs a few adjustments which will force him to learn a little along with it being light and easy to fly, buy overall it is a better quad. The 250 is suppose to be good as well but I have no exp with that.

(03-Jun-2016, 01:23 PM)Sacro Wrote: I think the biggest question here is, can you fly? Building a 250 made for speed and agility is good and all but if you cant fly you cant handle the speed in these beasts. I recommend you buy something that is small, easy to learn and doesnt break on your first crash.

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Falcon 180 is cheaper and a better quad overall. Needs a few adjustments which will force him to learn a little along with it being light and easy to fly, buy overall it is a better quad. The 250 is suppose to be good as well but I have no exp with that.

you're absolutely right. first thing is can you fly? do you have any experience at all with any kind of flying? it can be really discouraging, not mention frustrating and expensive if you try to take off to fast (no pun intended) and think you're going to be able to fly like those speed demons in the YouTube video. 
I use to have a one of these eachine racers and from my personal experience out of the box they are not to great. but with a little bit of tuning they can be half way decent. they can take beating, but like anything else will break after a few crashes, but the parts are cheap, if you don't mind waiting for them to come from China. it uses a CC3D flight controller which will require a whole lot of soldering if you decide to swap it out with something different.

(03-Jun-2016, 01:23 PM)Sacro Wrote: I think the biggest question here is, can you fly?

I can fly fairly well. I have a Hubsan X4 H107c that I have been flying since Christmas and have gotten quite good at controlling that one.

I would really like to stick with the 250 size as that seems to be the most common and as I get better at quads I plan to build more of them.

I have access to a soldering iron so that is not a problem.

(03-Jun-2016, 10:52 AM)lolFPV Wrote: If you're new why not just get a kit like this off ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Emax-Nighthawk...Sw14xWK1RM

I was originally going to get a kit like that but I was worried about quality of the products. As I am in college I have a small source of income and would rather spend a bit more now than have to replace parts later that broke because they were cheaply made.

I updated my list to include littlebee 20A ESC, KINGKONG 2204 2300kv, KINGKONG 5040 props, and beerotor F3 FC with beerotor PDB

What type of battery is best for those parts?

Thanks for all your help so far!

(03-Jun-2016, 07:37 PM)Xtopher98 Wrote: I can fly fairly well. I have a Hubsan X4 H107c that I have been flying since Christmas and have gotten quite good at controlling that one.

I would really like to stick with the 250 size as that seems to be the most common and as I get better at quads I plan to build more of them.

I have access to a soldering iron so that is not a problem.


I was originally going to get a kit like that but I was worried about quality of the products. As I am in college I have a small source of income and would rather spend a bit more now than have to replace parts later that broke because they were cheaply made.

I updated my list to include littlebee 20A ESC, KINGKONG 2204 2300kv, KINGKONG 5040 props, and beerotor F3 FC with beerotor PDB

What type of battery is best for those parts?

Thanks for all your help so far!

I'm really pleased with my Tattu batteries (3s 1550mAh 45C) but I was just told they're shit. Waiting for an answer on whats better

If you know Hubsan you'll be fine with a 250 as long as you start simple and fly in areas where the quad dont crash into concrete. A bit ahead here but let me prepare you, you WILL crash a LOT trying to learn rate-mode. You're going to have to buy spare parts eventually no matter what, but a solid frame helps a lot even though it's pricey. Like you write, better to spend a little extra on quality

And something else you should take into consideration is the lighter you build, the less damage from a crash.

I just tried the sunnysky 2204 motors, and I must say they are way better than the really cheap kingkong 2204 motors. much more balanced and quite agile for a beginner I would say. The Lisam210 frame was also a blast to fly with those motors with a weight of 299 grams without battery!

Is there a good motor for $10? Also, is it a good idea to get bullet connectors?

(03-Jun-2016, 11:06 PM)Xtopher98 Wrote: Is there a good motor for $10? Also, is it a good idea to get bullet connectors?

You'll probably have to go 1806 to get a $10 motor.

Here's a set near you: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store...ouse_.html

Bullet connectors add weight and still require soldering - I just solder my motors directly to the ESC.  If you want to be able to easily disconnect the motor, and don't mind the extra weight, then use bullets.  (Eventually though, you'll do away with them...)

Is this a good frame, or should I stick to the zmr250 from banggood?http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/%5F%5F96502%5F%5FJumper%5F266%5FFPV%5FRacing%5FQuad%5FFrame%5FKit.html