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"bad" reviews??
#31
(21-Apr-2017, 06:41 AM)nitro20% Wrote: nice im gonna watch em... thats sounds so mest...a rushed review by a supplier...

The FC arrived before the TX so I had to keep them waiting on that. Then the TX arrived at exactly the same time as a whole pile of "life" so I couldn't dedicate the amount of time (required by a noob to get to grips with it) straight away.

(21-Apr-2017, 06:41 AM)nitro20% Wrote: my news paper. in my one stop light town. with the HEAD WATERS OF THE SAC. cleanest water on earth, said one a month ago...the amount of RAW SEWAGE in the lake is SAFE to SWIM in.....theres some things that are not suppose to go into a sentence together..

I feel you there brother, I've been living in South Africa for 8 years, here its more like "the amount of raw sewage in the water makes it safe to DRINK!" I met an old guy who was testing the water in local streams and he said some were cleaner than the municipal supply!
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#32
(21-Apr-2017, 07:17 AM)nitro20% Wrote: I HAVE BOTH OF THOSE CONTROLLERS, INFACT I HAVE TWO FSI6, ONE FSI6X, AND ONE I-RANGE-X

Man where were you 2 weeks ago!?
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#33
(21-Apr-2017, 06:18 AM)Tom BD Bad Wrote: Edit to add : Er, I just linked all my reviews in a thread called "bad reviews" not sure that was a great idea! Doh

ROFL ROFL
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#34
(21-Apr-2017, 04:24 AM)nitro20% Wrote: man i get this alot...i am a happy go luck smiles of smiles..i could care less about any of it really..but i do it for the sake of being a human... im not grumpy, i dont think? Confused  i am CRITICAL, and i can be a bit belligerent Angry ...but not to the point where its a quality of mine.....more critical and with out sympathy for a  big % of living humans Poop  or "excuses" of ANY kind..

My thought on the tone for a set of reviews was less pointing out some sort of fixed character trait and more about how the tone of your comments in this thread would make for an interesting tone to use for a set of reviews. There are tons of bubble-gum and rainbow reviews out there that someone who starts with a cynical perspective would make for a great contrast.

(21-Apr-2017, 06:18 AM)Tom BD Bad Wrote: Edit to add : Er, I just linked all my reviews in a thread called "bad reviews" not sure that was a great idea! Doh

Definitely honest reviews! Easy to understand and learn from Smile 

Plus... we needed examples of good reviews for this thread. It's the counter-point of the whole discussion! Thanks Tom, great stuff on the reviews. 

And what gets more honest than?:

 
Tom BD Bad Wrote:So tried again from the beginning - reset TX to factory defaults, went thru activating switches, re-setup iBUS etc. then tried to reinstall betaflight - omnibus and... uh oh FLAMES, maybe in my inexperience I did something wrong?!

So huge sorry to Sandra, Oscar and Banggood but I am afraid that this is going to have to conclude my review!

Definitely don't need years of experience building or flying to give that kind of feedback. Smile It's right there too... maybe the product, maybe not...
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#35
Sorry to intervene guys, but please keep conversation in a civilized manner Smile we have some really young members in this forum thanks Smile
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#36
(21-Apr-2017, 01:16 PM)Oscar Wrote: Sorry to intervene guys, but please keep conversation in a civilized manner Smile we have some really young members in this forum thanks Smile
HUH...i really am tryin to...can you please give me an example of what i did...but after i was told on the 2nd page...thank you ...with all respect, i understand were you are coming from...i apologize...this should be for ALL users..

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#37
Yeah I think we managed to make our way into a civil and intelligent discussion. I hope the last 10 or 11 posts of this thread reflect that shift because I definitely admit to my part in the debate Smile
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#38
AS i thought about what i would say/review about all the FS controllers and TX line up, with focus on the 6ch and up, ( i have 3 pistol grip FS controllers that i used on my, HOME HOME BUILT BOATS..and land RCs)...and...the only thing i would have added in that controller review was..instead of the way you put it,,,which was nice by the way.....i would have been more focused on letting the listener know that there is no real difference between two...but for the most part its is the processors of the older FS and this newer model, irange/fsia6x
and also did you try to set the aux channels??? do it...see what you come up with... i know i had a hell of a time...but it was just another setting that needed to be turned on....and that is why noob review is an advertisement..you never used this before you reviewed it...because you were rushed...my review of these controllers, and TXs because i have used them since day one, and have a drawer full of about 20  FS  TXs and 4 yrs of use with them, would be a review!!!! but mine would still be a noob review because i dont know what a REAL review is..obviously..lol

but i got to say...you almost made "me" believe that there was a difference between the two..i had to go pick them up again and see...LOLOLOLOL... Whistling 

 it wasnt a bad review....just if you didnt know about the FS line up....then???

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#39
Doh

Whistling
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#40
(21-Apr-2017, 05:28 PM)Carl.Vegas Wrote: Doh

Whistling
what??? i really thought i was good...have you used this controller or do you use it..
i promise, i would be all bla bla if you havent...

but i am really tryin to understand "review",..so i can do it right, and not be such a jerk about it...im AM trying to open a small shop..so i need SKILLS so SELL...
im goin to read your review once more..because the bottom line is oscar and friends like you enough to be a reviewer, so you must be doing something right...well more then something...your doin IT right... Cool...

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#41
so i read it again....they are really good controllers..and i think if they didnt have the 4 doubleA batteries. it would really feel like a toy...and if they ever did make a new controller it diffidently needs a HEAVIER feel to it..and wide gripping on the sides...the taranis has a "big" feel to it..it has "MASS". and i like that...FS/i Range..is almost toyish...but they are such damn good controllers for the buck...and they have such a far range for the price..and the TXs are getting more builder friendly, smaller..

HAHA A review on the REVIEW.....thats what this thread will turn into..complaints about bad reviews.....NNNNNOOOOOO....lololol..

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#42
so....this is a can off worms of a thread...SO lets kinda start over...
THE DEFINITION from the dictionary of the word REVIEW, and words in that definition..
 a review based on these words and definitions couldnt be argued with...RIGHT?
 
REVIEW: a formal assessment or examination of something with the possibility or intentions of instituting change if necessary 

ASSESSMENT: the evaluation or estimation of the nature, quality, or ability of someone or something. 

 EVALUATION: the making of a judgment about the amount, number, or value of something; assessment .

JUDGEMENT: the ability to make considered decisions or come to sensible conclusions. 

****INSPECTION:**** careful examination or scrutiny.

i like inspection...cause thats what we do..inspect....."CAREFUL" Thumbs Up is the first word....dosent say hurried or skimmed over...lol..... Dodgy

i could sit here and pick these definitions apart...but im sure everyone will read and understand these in different ways ..........SO let it begin Popcorn

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#43
Tom is the reviewer. When I write a review it's mostly just an excuse to start a thread and tell a story.
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#44
(22-Apr-2017, 01:51 AM)Carl.Vegas Wrote: Tom is the reviewer. When I write a review it's mostly just an excuse to start a thread and tell a story.

surprised no one has blew this one up...with the definitions..huh..?

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#45
Well I think what you've shared are different perspectives on how to observe a product and share the observations. I think each of them could be used for different flavors of what is typically called a "review" online. There are definitely some so-called reviewers who really just inspect a product and relay their findings. (I think of really basic unboxing photos that report on "it has 3 of these in the box" but no opinions shared). There are others who stick with the assessments and judgements: "Here is what I think about this product" or "My experience was X". Those are the most subjective and of course you have to watch out for bias. Evaluation is really where the experienced opinion comes into play. In order to evaluate you need to be able to measure and judge. That takes a been-there-done-that background. I would guess a good and honest evaluation would be more along the lines of what you wish there were more quality examples of on the internet.

I would say someone who comes to mind as a good reviewer as we talk about this is RCModelReviews. He's brutal at times and that's what makes him great. He also has a ton of knowledge and experience.

Here is a video of him explaining why he's not the kind of reviewer that you hate in fact:
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