Say you have always flown with motor stop enabled where at the lowest stick position, no spin occurs. In the event of a crash, the natural response would be to bring throttle down to minimum. If you crash into a net with motor_stop enabled, the quad will keep spinning, tangling itself up and potentially burning up ESC's.

(31-Mar-2017, 04:16 PM)unseen Wrote: You don't actually have to go through that 'get your finger ready on the disarm switch' and get the timing right stuff.

If you turn off the option in the configurator that reads "Disarm motors regardless of throttle value (when arming via AUX channel), life becomes much simpler. What it essentially means is that if you're using switch arming, all you need to do is switch to disarmed as you are coming in to land. It won't actually disarm until you bring the throttle all the way down.

So it's sort of like an 'auto disarm on landing' setting.

Great tip man tyvm! Ill set that up now actually rain rain go away

(31-Mar-2017, 05:10 PM)unseen Wrote: Tell me why it is safer to have the 'motor stop' feature enabled.

I agree and use the same mentality. When props spin I KNOW shes armed and can rocket off at any second, as do the people around me. I follow very similar rules flying quads as I do with shooting practice on the range. Safety first and the fun will follow.

(31-Mar-2017, 05:24 PM)Chamathke Wrote: Say you have always flown with motor stop enabled where at the lowest stick position, no spin occurs. In the event of a crash, the natural response would be to bring throttle down to minimum. If you crash into a net with motor_stop enabled, the quad will keep spinning, tangling itself up and potentially burning up ESC's.

I would say that equipment damage is not very important when looking at the safety aspect of this topic...

It isn't relevant, I'm just answering the question of why you would have motor_stop enabled since I was asked.

Regardless, the point I'm trying to make is that even though certain people do not have motor_stop turned on, there are people who fly with that feature enabled.

Although the reason I had it enabled in the video was to show the feature in action because the effects were difficult to see with the motors already spinning.

(31-Mar-2017, 05:24 PM)Chamathke Wrote: Say you have always flown with motor stop enabled where at the lowest stick position, no spin occurs. In the event of a crash, the natural response would be to bring throttle down to minimum. If you crash into a net with motor_stop enabled, the quad will keep spinning, tangling itself up and potentially burning up ESC's.

That fact that someone has done the wrong thing from the start is not a justification for carrying on doing the wrong thing.

When I started with multirotors, I also mistakenly thought that not having the motors spin when armed was a good idea. It didn't stop me from listening to those who knew better and changing the way I looked at things.

It's called 'learning'.

Please understand that I am not justifying anything, I was simply answering your very question as to "why it is safer to have the 'motor stop' feature enabled" I simply brought up a scenario where one would need to use motor_stop.

If an individual was used to something (in this case motor_stop), natural response would dictate a specific behavior. If this individual neither used motor_stop nor armed on an aux, the quad would keep spinning for long enough to potentially cause damage to component until the pilot is able to disarm.

Regardless, things have gone a bit off topic, I thank you for your comments and I would like to mention that this discussion has been rather eye opening.
I do maintain that it is simpler to have AirMode enabled permamantly for the sake of convenience and to simply disarm a few inches above the ground for an uneventful landing.

I've never burnt an ESC or motor by getting stuck. I have crashed several times in trees where the quad got stuck, and most of the time I just arm it again and move the roll/pitch stick around untill the quad jumps out of the tree. I'm not saying that it will not burn if it is stuck, but I haven't experienced that myself yet

It depends on the quality of equipment mostly, I've burnt many generic "Red Bricks" from props getting stuck in nets or tangled on pieces of thread

So back to the topic
As this hobby progresses SO fast and becomes more plug-n-play, especially in terms of cleanflight and betaflight. It seems to me (still learning btw) that airmode is the way to go at this point, as it seems to perform better for maintaining attitude and control during the crazy aerobatics that these things can do.

The only time I've ever smoked a motor was when I changed to using a switch to arm. As I hadn't developed the 'hit the disarm switch' reflex, I completely forgot about it when I crashed. As I was walking to retrieve my quad, I noticed smoke rising from it!

Completely ruined an 1806 motor and the ESC. It was the only time I made that mistake though!

(01-Apr-2017, 12:33 AM)Drone0fPrey Wrote: So back to the topic
As this hobby progresses SO fast and becomes more plug-n-play, especially in terms of cleanflight and betaflight. It seems to me (still learning btw) that airmode is the way to go at this point, as it seems to perform better for maintaining attitude and control during the crazy aerobatics that these things can do.

From everything I've read this is the case... In fact I even have seen the difference since I fly in liftoff which doesn't seem to simulate the air-mode setting. 

Now if I could get myself to follow my own defined landing procedures maybe I could avoid having my own quad bounce around so much x.x 

On a 3 mode switch I have Horizon (top default), Acro with Airmode (center) and Acro with Airmode and Anti Gravity(bottom).

I usually land in Horizon to minimize the bounce but take off in Acro Airmode or with Anti Gravity.

(16-May-2017, 06:17 PM)guile Wrote: On a 3 mode switch I have Horizon (top default), Acro with Airmode (center) and Acro with Airmode and Anti Gravity(bottom).

I usually land in Horizon to minimize the bounce but take off in Acro Airmode or with Anti Gravity.

What does anti gravity mode do ? Is that an option in betaflight aswell ?

(17-May-2017, 03:22 AM)Daveyo Wrote: What does anti gravity mode do ? Is that an option in betaflight aswell ?

It's like a super I-Term gain.  Joshua Bardwell explains it very well in this video.