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$400 DIY Custom Build
#1
Hi All. 
Would love for someone to do a sanity check on the following DIY build. New to the scene and frankly need some advice before I order. I like the challenge with a DIY (I can solder and have OK electronics knowledge). My budget is around $400AUD as it stands right now so hopefully parts are good and up to date.

Frame - Martian II CF 220mm Frame (ditching the PDB) - https://goo.gl/vdoXGr
Motors - DYS BE1806 2300KV - https://goo.gl/GKxnF1
FC - Micro 20x20mm STM32F4 FC - https://goo.gl/A9xWLQ
ESC - FVT LittleBee 20A ESC (x4) - https://goo.gl/kTSkns
PDB - Matek Systems PDB-XT60 - https://goo.gl/VzWPYG
Props - Lumenier 5inch Tri Blade - https://goo.gl/r5Szqi
Battery - Turnigy Graphene 4S 1300mAh - https://goo.gl/GQVuxg
Radio - FrSky Taranis QX7 White https://goo.gl/PhWXCo
Receiver - FrSky/Eachine XSR-E 2.4G SBUS Receiver - https://goo.gl/8sK34n
- Eachine TX801 5.8G 72CH - https://goo.gl/Fd1KJt (question below)
Q - Eachine 5.8G 5dBi Antenna - https://goo.gl/zzpjeP (question below)

With both of the Eachine parts, are both needed right now to complete the build? I don't need FPV goggles right now.

Thanks in advance. Keen to order the parts and just want some help to ensure that everything is compatible and ready to build.

Cheers
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#2
hi MicD, welcome to IntoFPV.

At first glance the motors seem a bit narrow. I fly motors that are 2206/2306 (meaning the diameter is wider than the 1806s). Perhaps you have a reason for going with narrower motors though?

Also is there any reason you're using a micro FC rather than a full size 36x36 FC? I don't think the micro flight controller will fit in the martian II... Perhaps consider getting an all in one flight controller that also has the PDB built in so that you can have less components. Something more like this. Although, note I have no experience with the FC I posted, it's just one I found that looks decent. It'll cost you an extra 10-20 bucks beyond what you'd pay for a separate cheapy FC and PDB but it'll be easier to work with and take up less space in the build.

With props, the lumeniers are great, but I wouldn't pay that much for props of any kind in the beginning. Try to see if you can get ahold of some Dal Cyclones or standard props. They're as resiliant as the lumenier props but they're cheaper and you don't have to hassle with spacers and stuff.

The receiver makes me a little nervous by saying FrSky & Eachine... a real XSR should cost about the same although I can't find the old ones on Banggood. Maybe they've sold them all?

On the two questions, you don't need them if you're going to fly FPV. Even if you did get them it wouldn't work unless you had a camera. If you're going to wait to go FPV then might as well wait to get those components as well.

I hope I haven't made things more difficult for you, and hopefully someone will come by and check my advice and give more advice of their own.

good luck with your first build! It sounds like you're on the right track!
carl.vegas
Current Quads: Operational: Diatone GT2 200 In need of repair: Bumble Bee, tehStein,  Slightly modified Vortex 250 
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#3
Hey MicD
I don't have any experience with 5" but...

Gotta agree with Carl, about the 20x20 FC, (not sure that the frame is going to take it?) and those DYS motors are ringing some serious alarm bells for me, they are really quite old and have never had particularly great reviews.

Emax red bottoms aren't new either, but they do have a proven record... These are motors for the Eachine V-tail which had terrible reviews, but they are still Emax red bottoms, not bad for about $45 USD.

IMO this set of T-motor Air 40's for $55, is probably the best deal for a 5" motor on BG right now, (personally I like purple)!

Never used them but T-motor are a well recognized brand in the hobby...

Oscar has posted a great cheap  1st timers build using the Martian frame, check it out here. Personally I would steer clear of RacerStar motors, quality seems to be quite 'hit and miss' by all accounts.

I might also consider going for a 30A ESC just in case,  these are about the same price ($45 for a set)

Good luck with the build, if you have more questions just ask...
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#4
Not "by all accounts". I've got two sets of Racerstars and they work fine for me.
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#5
Take a look at the parts list in this article.

HOW TO BUILD A RACING DRONE (FPV MINI QUAD) BEGINNER GUIDE (already posted above)

Also here is a nice playlist from part selection to every part of the build.


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#6
Joshua Bardwell FC, although $35,is well layout with great instructions for beginners. Which is the same cost for your FC and PDB, because you can ditch the PDB. As Carl suggested.

EMAX red bottom $29 on Ebay. But T-motors are better choice as Tom suggested.

I think the RX you suggested is a clone of XSR-M. Real XSR is good. I starting to use R-XSR, super small.

VTX with Irctramp or smartaudio is the way to go. No more pushing buttons. Also, pigtail connector is better. Coaxial soldered on tend to break easily until you get an extension.

I run Dalprops cyclones. They are durable. They bend on crashes but I have never had one break.

Antenna, pagoda on ebay.
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#7
You guys rock, thanks for the warm welcome too.

On the list, apologies with some of the original parts, just a rookie mistake. Motors suggested on 2206/2306 I will go with, so thank you!

Really appreciate everyone's advice. Would save me some $$$ and heartache. Here is the revised list, trust that this is better.

Been thinking about other frames a little more and these look wicked. Worth the money?

Realacc Real3 250mm 4mm Arm Carbon Fiber Frame Kit - https://goo.gl/de76Lz
Scorpion X220 220mm 4mm Arm Carbon Fiber Frame Kit - https://goo.gl/HVQkae

Frame - Martian II CF 220mm Frame (ditching the PDB) - https://goo.gl/vdoXGr
Motors - DYS BE1806 2300KV - https://goo.gl/GKxnF1  Emax LS2206 Lite Spec Blackhttps://goo.gl/SZcEiG (I like black, sorry Tom, hope these are good?)
FC - Micro 20x20mm STM32F4 FC - https://goo.gl/A9xWLQ - Matek F405 AIO FC/PDB - https://goo.gl/jZa3YB
ESC - FVT LittleBee 20A ESC (x4) - https://goo.gl/kTSkns - T-Motor F30A ESChttps://goo.gl/FSwuxz
PDB - Matek Systems PDB-XT60 - https://goo.gl/VzWPYG - Matek F405 AIO FC/PDB - https://goo.gl/jZa3YB
Props - Lumenier 5inch Tri Blade - https://goo.gl/r5Szqi - I'll try to source a cheaper version, I just fancy white props
Battery - Turnigy Graphene 4S 1300mAh - https://goo.gl/GQVuxg
Radio - FrSky Taranis QX7 White https://goo.gl/PhWXCo
Receiver - FrSky/Eachine XSR-E 2.4G SBUS Receiver - https://goo.gl/8sK34n
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(28-Dec-2017, 01:11 AM)MicD Wrote:
Motors - DYS BE1806 2300KV - https://goo.gl/GKxnF1  Emax LS2206 Lite Spec Blackhttps://goo.gl/SZcEiG (I like black, sorry Tom, hope these are good?)

No apology necessary! Emax make really good motors, I'm sure those will serve you very well, they do look really cool too!
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#9
The Matek FC has some issue with yaw twitch. I don't have the FC myself, but the Matek thread has a lot of post regarding this issue. People attribute it to the gyro, which is super sensitive.
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#10
(28-Dec-2017, 06:23 AM)voodoo614 Wrote: The Matek FC has some issue with yaw twitch. I don't have the FC myself, but the Matek thread has a lot of post regarding this issue. People attribute it to the gyro, which is super sensitive.

Oh really, what are some of the alternatives to recommend?
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#11
(28-Dec-2017, 07:31 AM)MicD Wrote: Oh really, what are some of the alternatives to recommend?

BetaflightF4 Flight Controller

Holybro Kakute F4 AIO
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#12
Joshua Bardwell FC
CL RACING F4 OR F4S
DYS F4 Pro V2 (be careful to not confuse with the regular Pro that was called unofficially version 2)
Here is a link for pro v2
https://www.racedayquads.com/products/dy...ller-v2-fc
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#13
Thanks guys.

Holy crap, this budget keeps on getting bigger and bigger :/
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#14
How is budget getting better with the above FC suggestions? Your pick is $40. I don't think anything we suggested is over $40.
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#15
(28-Dec-2017, 09:27 AM)voodoo614 Wrote: How is budget getting better with the above FC suggestions? Your pick is $40. I don't think anything we suggested is over $40.

It was more so a thought that when I initially wanted to get into this, the budget was $200 max  ROFL
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